Yet Another Us Mass Shooting Texas

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by J biker, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. Getting out of hand, will they look at gunlaws? ...or will Trump tighten up immigration again...so busy keeping the rest of the world in check.
     
  2. Literally nothing will happen as a result of this, sadly. It's a sad fact that a significant proportion of Americans would accept an endless stream of maniacs freedom to gun down the innocent if it means they can maintain their own freedom.
     
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  3. Agreed, I dont think they can see the irony of their situation either.
     
  4. Thank goodness an armed bystander was at hand to stop this looney from killing any more people, much more effective than we do over here where we might pluck up the courage to shout at the attacker if we are feeling brave/stupid...
     
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  5. If we were to ban everything that killed us then we would never drive, drink, use mobiles in a car etc. I agree they need a discussion around the second amendment in regards to what arms should now fall into the category of arms but I am always puzzled why people turn a blind eye to others dying?

    Acapulco and Cancun are now two of the most dangerous cities in South america but yet Brits will happily go there and spend money, Many Corbyn supporters are pro palestine and turn a blind eye to Jews being killed by palestinians knifing and killing them and in Venezuela, 6 times more Venezuelans than the U.S. killed by guns. People still go on holiday to Turkey whilst that country locks up politicians, local councillors and journalists and some never to be seen again. Brazil has twice as many gun deaths as the U.S. despite it's population being a third less than the states

    So it seems we can turn a blind eye to thousands killed in yemen, hundreds of thousands dying in Pakistan through floods, Brazillians killed in numbers twice as many as the U.S. by guns, Venezuela killing six times more by guns than the U.S. but 20 people killed in the U.S. and suddenly some are jumping up and down.

    It would seem therefore it's not how many are killed by guns but more what country it is happening in.
     
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  6. @noobie, yes you are right. Amazes me the lack of balance with world reporting. My main concern is the slanted view the US takes on world events, yet it has deep rooted issues of its own. Just not prepared to confront them.
    As to holidays in any of the places you mention (never liked the idea of Turkey..), no thanks.
     
  7. I was watching the news before I went to work this morning. Some guy from Texas was on saying that gun laws can't be changed because it would go against the 2nd amendment of their constitution. Am I missing something here when I think "Change the constitution then"?

    When the news anchor said that killings in Australia had dropped significantly since tougher rules brought in after the Port Arthur massacre, he then said it would be too difficult to do because there are 300 million guns legally owned in the USA. Surely you start with the 1st gun and move onto the next....... If this is the attitude of Americans when the bodies aren't even cold yet, what chance do you stand in changing anything?
     
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  8. I think some ardent nra supporting gun owners, gun companies and politicians who take kickbacks from the gun industry try and use the "we can't change the 2nd amendment" to block and shut down discussion. You will never in my life time change the 2nd amendment but you can clarify it for modern times. the founding fathers never wrote number 2 knowing 300 shot fully automatic machine guns were on their way.

    I would add again though that I lived off and on, in large chunks for 3 years in South Dakota which is an open carry state and the only people I saw carrying guns were cops or military. The perception of american loons are around every corner with a gun simply hasn't been my experience
     
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  9. Hallelujah, oh no that's not right. Yeehar, that's probably a little inappropriate. Y'all gunna die!!

    I dunno what came over me I was channeling been american momentarily. At the start of a new day in usa_bigotryland these killings shouldn't be considered objectionable or mean gun control should be discussed. This is plainly normal behaviour for the satanic genocidal yanks. Stop pretending this is peculiar or outlandish. After all the people defending this will point at mass killings abroad or how their sizable nation really has very little mass killing in respect to its demographic size & gun ownership.

    This is normal for usa, end of life lesson.
    ps: Rip
     
    #9 GunZenBomZ, Nov 6, 2017
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  10. Blimey, why so much hatred towards American people??
     
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  11. Been putting up with it most of my life, AD. It's just ignorance, is all.
     
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  12. @Loz ?
     
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  13. It certainly isn't hatred; more vile repulsion as of their foreign policy & general demeanor towards one another. Stuff like the TTIP; where "..just sign it & then we'll tell you whats in it..". Whereby we eventually find out american corporations such as monsanto could legally sue nations if they were not allowed to sell & destroy local ecological environments with its GMO-plants & pesticides. Impoverishing countries with retroactive fines because they don't want their products for an unlimited time-frame.

    Where americans have a 'full-spectrum dominance' plan to control access too space & the solar-system. Meaning in basic terms they illegally against international agreements that they have signed(outer space treat 1967). Now state they wish to weaponize space. Even fire nuclear weapons at meteors to test deflecting techniques. I don't suppose you know that usa planned to nuke the Moon? (declassified plan A119 - 1958) The single greatest thing that provides the Planet with an abundance of life giving properties..

    Where do you start with the genocide of millions of people around the globe since 11/9/2001. I suspect many people are totally blinkered towards the enslavement policy of the New World Order. An acronym commonly used is NWO, one in which the americans using 'free-masons' occultist indoctrination. Plan to make humanity on Earth a maximum of 500 million along with a single over-riding global government.

    The trillion dollar; announcement to 'upgrade' its military this year has met with little discourse. You'd think good americans would want a socialized health service like most other nations provide its citizens. Anyhow there literally is so much wrong with that subculture & its 48+ million living on food-stamps too start shining a light on its more broader faults. But how it funds terrorists & gangs & coups somehow get ignored & I won't bore you with that tit-bit. Just go seek information about 'School of the americas' too get a more interesting view of how they treat South-America.

    PS: I'm looking forward to usa threatening the E.U. or even UK if its keeps dealing with the Russian Federation. As usa is bound to think its military might has the obedience of its allies. Roll on 2018 & the hyper-inflation of the dollar failing currency.
     
    #13 GunZenBomZ, Nov 6, 2017
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  14. Long answer. Not @Loz then :thinkingface:
     
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  15. Gunz, I think you are confusing Americans with American government but the irony of your user name in this subject, did make me chuckle.

    If I can, no one has excused the deaths but some have put a perspective on it.

    in the states in 2016 there were 58,796 recorded gun incidents. Deaths came in around 20,000 in a country of 360 million legal Americans. That number should offend Americans but with anything that can end your life earlier, that is a risk we all take, even on a motorcycle. http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

    But if I may? you are offended say at 20,000 dying by guns in another country, can I ask what your opinion is on abortions in THIS country?

    Last year (2016) the nhs for just England and Wales reported there was 190,406 abortions, 191,014 for 2015. to offer some perspective, that is a the entire population of Herefordshire killed every year, or the entire population of Bury with a few thousand extra thrown in, EVERY year

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../652083/Abortion_stats_England_Wales_2016.pdf
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_districts_by_population

    So if we are talking actuals, you are more likely to die as a child in the U.K. through abortion, than in the U.S. by gun
     
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  16. Fixed it for ya ;)
     
  17. I`m pro choice on abortion but the figures you quote above are shocking and horrendous. Without knowing the details on any specific case it seems to me that there must be a lot of people using abortion as their form of birth control.
     
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  18. To be fair, Americans sometimes get confused that same way : o )
     
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  19. Abortions are for unborn fetuses. Which aren’t people (yet).

    In my opinion the only good reason for an abortion is that the woman carrying the baby wants one.
     
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  20. I guess it depends on what you define as a person? There are some interesting developmental facts here, looks like a person to me:

     
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