We want to have the old gas fire, hearth and and mantle removed and have a simple 4.5kw wood burner out in with slab heart and single beam mantle. Had price and think over 3k sounds very excessive for what is a 750 item. Slithiyg we have clay lined chimney they always insist on a liner etc. Amy ideas on if that sounds reasonable? I had a quite 18m without liner and it was half that.
@bradders don't buy a 750 pound stove! You want a charnwood island one, approx 1400, but worth every penny, class 1 stainless steel flexi liner, approx 500 and then Labour on top, price depends on your specific situation, come and have a look in our huws gray hay on wye stove center, they will set you up proper, and recommend some installers!
I know that if you use petrol to assist in getting em fired up, don't use to much and don't take a 5 min phone call before putting a match to it as the fumes spread and the results can be quite spectacular...
We got a fake electric one in the end. Sits inside the same housing the company use for their real ones so looks legit. The flames look great and it was about 1.5k cheaper. The cost of the liner which, yes they insist you have to cover their arse, is offensive. Apparently chimney fires are quite a bad thing so they definitely don’t want that. Are you sure your clay chimney would be sufficient as they were telling us the chimney temps are massive. Our liner would have cost about £2k and would have had to clear the house roof by 1.5m to get sufficient pull. Would have looked awful. We now have a fake flue that goes up about 1ft and cost £50. We thought we’d miss out real one but we’re happy. No mess, no fuss.
Look on eBay for a secondhand one Get a flue Stop being a tight ass Our issue is our roof tiles are made of flakey pastry so would have needed a long reach cherry picker so that added. £££. We got one of these £50 baskets from local junk yard Oh and sweep your chimney - this was in our other one
We have two wood burners, one is a lot bigger than the other - they kick out a massive amount of heat once you load them up, But having nearly set fire to the house three years ago after finding out one chimney wasn't lined - get it lined ! But you may be wont need as bigger burners as you think.
@bradders when you say your flue is clay lined, does that mean its a modern house with a chimney that has been built with interlocking liners and a filled void? if so it shouldn't need an insulated liner as the void should have been back filled with cement and vermiculite. If it hasn't been back-filled it will need a pre-insulated liner but you'll struggle to get 6" liner with insulation down what will probably be an 8" flue. You may only get away with 5" which means the stove has to be chosen to suit. The best liner insulation is Chim-wrap or Linertherm fireproof jacket. http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Flexible-Flue-Liners.html Ideally you need to remove the chimney pot, install an insulated liner that is suspended on the brickwork of the stack and the pot refitted and reflaunched and with insulation packed into the gap between the pot and the liner (otherwise top of the liner will choke up with tar). Avoid pot-hung liners. They're alright for central heating flues but no use for wood burners though many fitters will use them because they can't be arsed/don't know how to reset chimney pots properly. 3K doesn't sound excessive to supply and fit stove and liner. As JH says, the liner alone with insulation and fittings can easily top £2000. It all depends which stove - there are good, indifferent and cheap and nasty. And liner materials vary a lot but it doesn't pay to scour the internet and just buy the cheapest. There's some proper garbage out there. And don't buy cheap cowls. Cheapo £40 anti-bird cowls dissolve and end up in the garden within two years. Marine grade stainless cowls cost twice that but they're worth it.
yip, buy the best you can afford, we have two, sorry had two. and deffo line the chimney one was cheep, lasted no time before it started cracking, and as above, started a fire in our bedroom as it burst through the wall. we have a large one in the kitchen, heats the water, and with a bit of pluming will run 6rads no prob. you really cant beat a log fire for creating ambiance , gonna be spending some big money soon sorting the chimneys due to the lack of liners tho
Don't you have gas? Honestly I don't see the point in spending large sums on heating by log burner when 3K / 4K could go in the Porsche fund & wifes watch instead or ambience and cleaning out ash? Oh well each to their own.
Definitely. I've rebuilt literally dozens of chimney stacks from little single flue gable enders which can be done off a tower scaffold to huge multi-flue saddle stacks on four story Georgian town houses and ornate Victorian stacks with every kind of fancy brickwork effect thrown at them. Its amazing how some people will spend thousands on chimney rebuilds and then treat flue lining as an after-thought to be skimped on when the scaffolding access is there and they'll never have a better opportunity to do it properly. They'll buy the cheapest liners they can find, awful mineral wool insulation bats and £35 cowls from the local Screwfix. To my mind when you've spent over £1500 on scaffolding alone to get up to a high and inaccessible stack, surely you'd want to make damn sure that what you fit up there is as good and as long lasting as it can possibly be. Its going to cost an awful lot of money to go back up there and do it again.
yip, listen to the man brad. these where installed before we moved in 15years ago, how the feck they passed any sort of building control is beyond me. there was even a soot box made of wood in the system ffs.
