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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. You don't have to read my one. It was for @PaulPhillips
    At least I don't cut and paste pages from Breitbart News. It's all my own work! :)
     
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  2. ^^ your back on form, Im just back on the ''Grimbergen"
     
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  3. Oh I know :upyeah:
     
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  4. I don't think even bankers can drink Petrus anymore unless the party is at Jean Claudes house :D

    I agree Mays deal is far worse than out current arrangement within the eu, that is why most brexiteers will see this as the thing we worried about, a remaining prime minister in a remain house of commons supported by a remain driven civil service, giving us Brexit in name only.

    You say stay in and change it, those currently in power and their apprentices coming through such as Selmayr whose own promotions were found to be against eu standards, by an eu investigative commission ombudsman and supported by a vote in parliament, still see's Salmayr in post. They at the very top not only do not want to change, but now they don't even care for their own rules and their own ombudsman
    https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu...ent-massively-votes-for-selmayrs-resignation/

    It's this lack of accountability and future direction that led many to say no way Merkel. Can I ask if you have ever heard of EUROSUR? European Border Surveillance System or maybe even the European Border and Coast Guard proposal?

    This from December 2018 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sit...2018-border-coast-guard-regulation-631_en.pdf

    What this does is largely replace national countries coastguards and border controls and brings them together for the current 28, under the control of the eu. In the early days of set up, they were 1,500 agents to assist with the migrant issue and to aid eu contries hardest hit by merkels come hither request. The eu is now seeking to increase that 1,500 to 10,000 and to be a force that supercedes nation states border control and reports directly to the eu and not the host country

    This is the second paragraph on the first page
    The Commission has already set out its vision2 for a strengthened and fully operational European Border and Coast Guard in order to address citizens’ concerns regarding security and safety for the Union. For the next Multi-annual Financial Framework 2021-2027, the Commission proposed to create a standing corps of 10,000 border guards and to almost triple funding for migration and border management to €34.9 billion, compared to nearly € 13 billion in the current period, in order to response in a targeted way to increased migratory, mobility and security challenges. This will allow for a better management of the EU borders by the European Border and Coast Guard and a more effective migration policy.

    This follows eu practice, introduce a smaller token effort to avoid revealing the plan first, then within a few years increase to a point no one really takes notice then before you know it, what happened there? this is how europol was created to even though interpol covered europe in it's remit.

    So you see, whilst some divert with it's all about the money, it isn't, it's mostly about not being part of a federal states of europe, we've seen this happen before on the sly but now the sly is even more professional and they see 3rd time lucky. No thank you
     
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  5. Anyone who thinks any politician will improve their own personal lot is a deluded fool.

    They will however fuck you life up good and proper if they have the opportunity.

    I think the world is sick and tired of the shit coming out of the mouths of UK politicians whatever their political persuasions. They have shown us all that the Party political system does not serve democracy properly or fairly on any level. Its about them first and foremost. If you voted leave or remain then i don't think you have a voice in Parliament.
     
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  7. You should read the whole German withdrawal agreement - then form your own proper opinion :bucktooth:
     
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  8. Imagine if you married one?
     
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  9. I like the SNP website, my favourite page currently is
    50 questions Phillip Hammond and the Tories don’t want us to ask – so we’ve asked them

    No candidate here though.
     
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  10. Like a rat, May will need to be forced in to a corner. End of.
    Many in her own party now see it, a few have left. On the other side of the house Cooper has a handle on her. She now knows to give the bitch no wriggle room. Yet she will try for a 3rd time I think to force a failed deal. She is the perfect Kamikaze pilot.
     
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  11. And the snakes in her party like Boris Johnson et al, who have all gone into hiding recently to avoid getting flak, will soon be sticking their heads above the parapet to try and further their own (not the country’s) agenda.
     
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  12. Cooper has indeed got tougher nastier and more spiteful. I put this down not to May, Brexit or even Corbyn, but more ever since her husband Ed Balls got kicked out of politics. She has to go home everyday and actually see him:D
     
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  13. Agreed. Watched parliament in action the last 3 days. Lets just say certain 'big hitters' from the leave campaign...nowhere in sight.
     
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  14. I do wonder about them, do they think people will have forgotten and vote for them in the future ?
     
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  15. yes.

    Mr Johnson has been particularly quiet.
    He's doing a Theresa May - shunning the limelight until he can snaffle the top job.
     
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