British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  2. “Nae a body at aw
     
  3. For anyone who hasn't already seen it,this is what Tusk etc offered last year but May turned down out of hand.
    Not perfect by any means,(and they'd have to drop the demand for reciprocal fishing access),but good negotiators could have probably made something out of it.
    Of course May and Robbins are not good negotiators,and refused to let anyone else talk about it:
    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/...work-for-the-future-relationship-with-the-uk/
     
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  4. Once the U.K. leaves the eu, that leaves just France as a nuclear power within the eu. I wonder how France, the great supporter of the european project, will feel about handing over control of their nukes to the european central command in Brussels for the armed forces?

    Will countries hand over their armed forces to what is after all, not a country but a management company ?
     
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  5. The MSM talks about this issue less than they speak of the Yellow Jackets and their six month protest against Macron and the EU.

    We are sleepwalking into this and we have no media prepared to tell us about it all.
     
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  6. Yeah. But no.

    Of more interest is the YouGov pollsters and their polls for the Peterborough by-election. You know ... the by-election that was called to replace the criminal Labour MP, whose vote turned that recent Brexit vote whilst she was wearing a criminal's tag ... that by-election.

    YouGov were asking people in Peterborough for their voting intentions - Lab, Con, Lib/Dem, Other. Turn to Page 2 for the list of Others.

    "Other" included the Brexit Party ... you know, the ones who are about to become the largest single Party in the EU Parliament.

    But please, by all means ... tell me how valuable opinion polls are, I never tire of hearing that.
     
  7. Yeah, I saw that, but it was reported with glee by the MSM that the Lib Dems topped that poll and not reported that you had to select "other" before being offered the option of The Brexit Party. If you did not select "other", they weren't even mentioned. All very duplicitous. :thinkingface:

    Opinion poll? That above wasn't an opinion poll, it was data analysis of the EU election result transposed to an GE without taking into account any other factors. :rolleyes: I never mentioned opinion polls.
     
  8. I never mentioned you mentioning opinion polls.

    What I am hinting at is the "science" of opinion polls, and the "science" of scaling-up results for two completely different kinds of election, are roughly equivalent (iow, utter junk)

    : o )
     
  9. I never mentioned opinion polls and I'm glad you recoginse I never mentioned opinion polls, by not mentioning that I mentioned opinion polls. :thinkingface:

    I never said it was "science" either (in fact I never said anything, merely posted the video) and recognise people vote differently in a GE. But I found it humorous to show this simple porting over of results without taking into account any other factors, whether it be junk or not. :confused:

    I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition. :)
     
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  10. Oh. I see. Still, no one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

    And who mentioned Goatdamned polls? They're useless!
     
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  11. i agree, total bolox.
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    Britain-wide voting intentions for Westminster (YouGov):

    Liberal Democrats 24% (+6)
    Brexit Party 22% (+4)
    Conservatives 19% (-5)
    Labour 19% (-5)
    Greens 8% (+2)
    SNP / Plaid Cymru 6% (+1)
    Change UK 1% (-1)
    UKIP 1% (-1)
     
  12. They are defending their polling method Here No wonder they keep getting it wrong. The Brexit Party may be a new party, but it's not a "small" party electorally. It may well become so if Brexit is delivered, but right now it'll have the greatest effect on a GE of any party.
     
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  13. yip, they will. on both sides of the wall.
     
  14. You mention opinion polls a lot :eek:
     
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  15. Maybe I should start a poll on that. :thinkingface:
     
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  16. It's interesting that the far lefts building in the U.k. seems to be acceptable, even though the left who know who the landlord is and is an investment group that hides it's money overseas to avoid taxes

    105 Victoria St, Westminster, London SW1E 6QT :D
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