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Hamilton Spoiler!

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Arquebus, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. Love him or loathe him he's a just a product of our time,the ME,ME society with facebook,Twatter accounts along with love island T.V shows etc this is all people are interested in these days..
     
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  2. He's also a product of Ron "Smug Twat" Dennis... Maybe he wouldn't be such a twonk if he hadn't had the same teacher ??
     
  3. no, and there's fvck all wrong with Army surplus togs mate !
     
  4. Nope he gets my vote for the eary days with mclaren,plus also he'd a T.A.G engine shoehorned into a 911 back in the day.:upyeah:
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  5. I don't think modern steel brakes would be any less efficient. Hard to know as nobody has tried it. The problem is that, with the current 13 inch rim size, they wouldn't last a race. Do we really want to see drivers now also having to be conservative with the brakes. I mean tyres don't last, being made to degrade artificially, fuel isn't enough to go flat out or even run the engines at full RPM. Limit is 15000 now but nobody bothers and 12000 is all they do as they don't have enough fuel to exploit that rev limit. The cars have got heavy too with the hybrid system weighing them down and the noise has all but disappeared. I do miss the v10 engined cars. 605kg with driver, 900 bhp and 19000 rpm. The Toyota engine we had at some point didn't make the minimum weight of 90kg so had ballast bolted to it to make it legal.
     
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  6. To prove what a bellend Hamilton has become, he applied to have watchmaker Hamilton banned from using the name because it is his name, despite the company selling watches in the USA since 1892, what a twat.
     
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  7. That's not quite correct. From what I can make out (because the Daily Fail does like to obscure these sort of things when they have it in for someone) it actually seems to be a retaliatory counter-application prompted by the watch company trying to block one of his company's trademarking the name "Lewis Hamilton" for use on certain goods.

    "The hearing was told 44IP, named after the Mercedes driver's race number, are attempting to trademark the name 'Lewis Hamilton' for a number of goods including watches, smartwatches and jewellery and Hamilton International are opposing the move."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-ban-luxury-watchmakers-Hamilton-brand.html

    So it looks like the watch company rather than Lewis "started it".

    It's a classic Daily Mail hit-piece tactic in which strictly speaking the facts are accurate but they're deftly arranged to tell a not very accurate story and all too often people fall for it.
     
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  8. Be that as it may... And I'm not saying anything against his engineering skills... It doesn't alter the fact that as a team boss he was a smug arrogant tw@t, and that clearly rubbed off on Hamilton. He continued to be smug and arrogant as Maclaren slowly slid to the back of the grid, which just made it worse...
     
  9. As I understand it, they are testing with larger diameter wheels now - which should improve things.
    I was told that they held on to small wheels and high profile tyres, long after other championships had moved to bigger wheels, because they didn't want to go away from the tyre manufacturer's name being visible on the side of the tyre - not sure how true that is...
     
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  10. I read it that way too Zhed, I just couldn’t be bothered to post it as the Hamilton haters won’t have it anyway, it’s that classic example of why let actual facts get in the way when what you’ve just read perfectly supports your POV : unamused:
     
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    Little reminder from three years ago...
     
  12. This seems to provide a more neutral version of events and it looks as if your chronology is more accurate than the DM’s (who would have thunk it!?).

    https://insights.kemplittle.com/pos...ccess-does-not-translate-to-eu-trade-mark-suc

    IP law isn’t something I know much about but it seems that Lewis (or at least his IP holding company) had been perfectly happy to live and let live, co-existing in the market with the Hamilton watch brand until 2015. However, the watch company then applied to register “Hamilton” as a TM, which Lewis’s company/advisers probably interpreted as a hostile move which was designed to or might have the effect of preventing him partnering with watch companies to make “Lewis Hamilton” special editions (like Michael Schumacher did with Omega) or to sell a “Lewis Hamilton” line of watches (he would have already been prevented from branding them “Hamilton” under a doctrine known as “passing off”). It also doesn’t seem he was trying to stop them using the name but was merely trying to stop them TM’ing it.

    So - this wasn’t the action of a petulant entitled brat but a fairly arid and perfectly legitimate commercial dispute over how the two companies can label their respective products and rub along together in the watch market. It’s also given the Hamilton watch company a lot of free publicity so I doubt they’d have been that upset even if they’d lost.

    Seeing as this was a decision of an EU court, I imagine quite a few people are conflicted by it because I reckon a Venn Diagram which had “Hamilton Haters” in one set and “EU Haters” in the other set would show a significant degree of overlap ;)
     
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  13. I hadn't heard that one but perhaps there is some truth in it. Larger wheels have been discussed many times over the years but it is the teams who don't want them. About 40 percent of the damping comes from the tyre sidewalls. A large proportion of the overall heave movement also comes from the tyres. Everybody is very comfortable with the way things are. Changing wheels and therefore tyres would mean a big chunk of the cars needs a complete rethink. Suspension has to move a lot more and damping is completely off. I can't see any tyre manufacturers being keen either. It's a big risk for them coming up with a completely new tyre concept for F1. If they have some bad failures it isn't exactly good advertising. They go to great lengths explaining that the tyres are designed to go off after some laps to aid the spectacle and it's what the Governing body wants. I know when they were looking for a supplier some years back and came up with the current concept a few tyre companies said no thanks because they would want to make the best tyre they can.
     
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  14. I do sometimes wonder what I would do in his position. He avoids tax, wouldn't we all do it given the opportunity? I'm sure plenty of people have taken advantage of the recent cut in VAT and stamp duty. Is that any different to avoiding tax on a plane? If I was in the market for a new motorbike, which I clearly don't need but want, and had the chance to not pay the VAT, I would do that.
     
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  15. Perhaps he doesn’t want the tax spent on whatever the Govt thinks is sensible like, just for example, a daft vanity project railway line or nuclear submarines or handing out billions of pounds worth of contracts to their useless mates (though that came later), and would prefer instead to put it to use in other ways?

    Some of those ways might include the large amounts of money he reportedly donates to the charities he supports.

    FYI - he’s already in the top 5,000 highest tax payers in the UK.
     
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  16. From what I heard recently, he's given up his jet, become a vegetarian and now, apart from work, only drives an electric car ?
     
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  17. The jet is gone, I read that. Mercedes gave him a electric car, I saw that somewhere too.
     
  18. It might be noteworthy that in the past even ordinary drivers by F1 standards had just as much. Take the jet. Ralf Schumacher, Heinz Harald Frentzen, Gerhardt Berger, David Coulthard spring immediately to mind. They all had the jet at some point. Keke Rosberg, around, 1992, would do a morning test at Hockenheim in his Mercedes DTM car, fly his jet back to Mallorca to do carting with Nico in the afternoon. Back the next morning for some testing. We organized a team BBQ one time and invited him. He replied: Fuel and fees for the plane to come to your party are costing me 10000 Deutsch Marks. How about I give you 5000 for the party and I don't come?
     
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  19. So who are the most skilled drivers, F1 or rally?
     
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