Just finished up at one of the hospitals. Hospital generally is pretty empty bar the covid ward (again small). Unbelievably I’m told they’re running out of body bags. boiled my piss paying for the parking. Some jobs worth on the door making everyone queue single file whilst taking everyone’s temps. They’ve managed to cause massive queues in an empty fucking hospital. Dickheads. Never think of the bigger picture as long as they’re following rules. Dozens of elderly and sick looking people all being made the queue with each other for the sake of parking. Wankers. It’s the same trying to get in to the building.
Interesting interpretation? You quote the same source within the same document, describing their conclusions alternatively as an "estimate" & "A pretty big piece of speculation". Why don't you consider them both on the same basis?
No doubt camera crew will catch it and claim ‘hospitals overrun, people queuing due to volumes’ bullshit
Yeah, plans to move London Covid patients to Yorkshire is just for fun! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...acks-set-outside-hospitals-overrun-Covid.html Just in case you don't like the Daily Hate Mail, here's another https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...o-yorkshire-because-beds-are-full/ar-BB1cll5H
Worth considering. What personal experiences do you have, and your qualifications to make those assessments? Remember that your reasoning will be cast against that of the NHS, the UK government and its principle advisors, the governments of most if not all countries of the world, and anecdotally according to polling the majority of the British public. But don't let that put you off.
Well it is good to see that tier 4 still allows communal religious gatherings , can you imagine offending certain groups by not allowing them to spread this highly dangerous virus whilst praying to their gods., way more important then running the economy.
I was referring to Advikaz trawling around plenty of hospitals. My own is still anecdotal: I know people who are nurses and having been on the ring end of the hospital system the consultants and specialists i spoke to all sit around doing nothing. I follow the stats as reported by ONS. I listen for ‘could’ ‘maybe’ statements rather than ‘will’ and ‘has’.
I visit a major London Hospital on a daily basis, since Boxing Day it is now normal to have half a dozen ambulances parked waiting to offload patients, but there is no more room at the inn. Since Boxing Day I have been asked not to call for any ambulances unless it’s a real emergency, and it will still take hours. The Covid people I drop things to pre Rapid response team arrivals are visibly far sicker than first round this year. It also seems from my house to house rounds there are definable local hotspots that just get bigger, it’s almost like the postie could be a superspreader(kidding). So due to the unchecked spread of the virus, with so many more people ill it’s simple maths, more people will have to self isolate so cannot work, this puts added strain on business and services ie post is taking longer , not enough dustmen , NHS workers off work, post office tellers off so takes longer to be served, all of this is very inconvenient, but most of all the rapid spread of this mutated strain covering much more of the population means many more people will die. London is carnage from a virus point of view, and how another proper lockdown wasn’t announced today is most odd. But my theory is that the government have made their calculations, that the NHS will be operating at 120% , the staff are fed up and are very battle weary now, but they will cope because they have too, so no lockdown but let’s allow a lot more people to die. Get on the front line and you see it for real, it’s scary. I’m 58, I haven’t had it, being careful not going on holiday etc, but I’m scared now because so many around have it, I’m happy to wait till spring for life to make some sort of a return to what we might remember.
Amazed. We have just been placed. t4. The glos hotspot is a highly Islamic area, small pocket. They haven’t stopped mixing in each others houses, or at prayer, and won’t. But I can’t see my lad who works from home and sees only his partner(who works in a small office) and their dog.
I am as intrigued by it all as the next person. I can’t really see how the hospitals are overrun. If it’s genuinely the case then the situation within the nhs and its management is far farrrr worse than I ever thought (and from my POV it’s pretty shocking at times). That’s why I don’t get all this ‘praise the nhs stuff’. There’s a lot of good people working in the nhs but the nhs it self is remarkably badly run. It’s a shit show. Governments have torn the arsehole out of it for years and nobody has taken it by the bollocks and pulled it straight. we could learn a lot from looking at the past. We used to have isolation type hospitals. Putting contagious people in a hospital with other already sick people is a mind bendingly shite idea. but then hospitals in general used to be much better managed than they are now. People used to own problems and matrons would cut about bollocking staff. Nowadays nobody gives a shit, middle management don’t question anything they just do what they’re told and follow the text books. It’s like Parliament. Bunch of logic lacking academics. i have noticed a sort of culture of people saying ‘it’s madness’ ‘it’s out of control’ etc. But when I’ve seen it with my own eyes it really doesn’t look like what I’d consider madness or chaos to look like. I think one of the worse cases was a certain trust telling me the hospital was overrun when they only had 10 or something covid beds and the rest of the hospital was deserted. Whether legit or not, i can only go off what I’ve seen and it just screams to me of terrible management across the board. just my opinion
Very simply I deliver Oxy probes as requested by 111. A very simple bit of kit you put on the end of your finger for a few seconds . One of the issues with Covid is a rapid decrease in blood oxygen levels which can be hard to detect, you might not look the worst case but low O2 is a life threatening emergency . Before I was involved in this great project run by Bike Shed Community Response an ambulance or paramedic would have to bring the probes . Thus our 1000s of deliveries have allowed Blue light services to do other things. It does mean we work with the most senior doctors in the biggest London Hospital trusts as well as the soldiers on the ground so you get a very good overview.
Fair point, The wonderful Nightingale Hospitals are great PR but due to NHS cuts over many years there are not the staff to operate these white elephants. So my posts are generally saying we are trying to squeeze far too many patients through too few facilities with too few staff.
Unless there is a forum error Advikas has blocked me for his own (i'm sure very good) reasons. I can only suppose he is eminently qualified to assess the NHS, has wide ranging access to all their activities, and clearly superior knowledge to those medical professionals both management & on the frontline whose opinions must be contrary to his -they are widely available on many media platforms.
