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Discussion in 'Ducati General Discussion' started by Hugo Magnus, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. Without wishing to sound pedantic, how do you know? Are there any stats on this?
     
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  2. @James Garnor has a point. I’ve seen it in South Yorkshire too. The dead giveaway is that most of the fuckers don’t even bother with a lid. Just a hoodie. And I’ve seen with my own eyes, scrotes on scooters and quads, ride right under noses of police cars in full sight. And plod do not move one inch…

    Now just imagine this- I roll my V4S out the garage. Don my sunglasses, jeans T-shirt and bimble past plod like they do… Slightly different reaction from South Yorkshire’s finest.
     
    #42 Fairy Cringe, Mar 26, 2025
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  3. They are about I agree, Fairy. We live in a quiet little Essex town near the county and we get our fair share.

    It’s the ‘virtually all’ riders of a certain kind in Leicester I’m struggling with.
     
    #43 bigjimmyb, Mar 26, 2025
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  4. Go and stand there for half an hour, every e-scooter you see is illegal, every bike that you see travelling under its own power is illegal. In half an hour I must have seen at least 60....

    In an hour of wandering around the various shops (those that are still open) I had to quickly move out of the way at least six times to avoid a collision.

    Annoying thing is Leicestershire Police has a policy of just warning them. Unlike most other constabularies, perhaps I might get just a warning if I get stopped for speeding or no insurance.
     
    #44 James Garnor, Mar 27, 2025
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  5. Same here, on a much smaller scale, wrt illegal ebikes and escooters, no police, so the scroats know they won't get stopped let alone prosecuted.
    I tried reporting a theft last year, despite 3 complaints it was never treated or recorded as a theft. Tenants took a fridge freezer, value under the limit where plods will investigate... Off topic I know but a winge is good for the soul
     
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  6. I was under the impression you meant motor scooters so apols for confusion. You mean the illegal privately owned versions of the (electric) ones you can hire in some cities?

    With regard to e-bikes, how do you establish their legality when they are riding past? One might suggest speed but I know someone with a perfectly legal mountain bike that goes at a fair lick…..am genuinely interested BTW not nit-picking.
     
  7. Legal e-bikes needs to be pedalled. It's as simple as that.
     
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  8. Not peddling: illegal
     
  9. And below 15mph
     
  10. Yes, they cannot have a throttle like a motorbike.
     
  11. You’re making me think about lampposts on either side of the road and cheese wire.
     
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  12. Ah I see - that makes sense - thx all!
     
  13. Do you remember an old Aussie cult film called ‘Stone’ where loads of bikers are getting done by some unknown assailant?
    Your post reminded me of that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_(1974_film)
     
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  14. That's the most concerning thing; the speed of one cutting between traffic in Epsom town centre the other day was ridiculous
     
  15. A quick Google search...

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    They are literally like unlicensed, uninsured small capacity motorcycles in terms of performance,
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  16. Police in Cardiff chased one, riders were 2 up, no protective clothing, doing 30 mph or so, they crashed, died, police got the blame, caused riots, no one questioned why the scroats were breaking god knows how many motoring laws...
     
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  17. Might go some way towards explaining why police are reluctant to chase them if they know the grief they'll get if it goes belly up; knowing the good old 'Elf & Safety regs, they've probably got to show some duty of care to the same scrotes who show no duty of care to anybody else on the roads. Our mistake is obviously wearing all the correct safety gear...
     
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  18. I’m no fan of the Police but that move by the copper was brilliant.
     
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  19. 25kph max assisted speed, must be pedal assisted. So they can go above 25kph but only because your just pedalling it with no electrical assistance. So likes been said see one moving along without pedalling (if it's not freewheeling) then it's illegal.
    I have a fully legal e-mountain bike, at my age I need all the help I can get, it's still a good work out.

    quick scooters.......... The Wolf King GT Pro electric scooter can reach speeds up to 100 mph.
     
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  20. So the other day I was in my van, waiting at a light to turn right at a junction. I noticed two young men approaching on bikes wearing black, no helmets, face masked. I then noticed one was on a Suron and using the old push the other bike - which was a superbike. Safe to assume both bikes were stolen.
    My light changed and I began to turn in front of the two kids - who did not slow down and started to run through their red light into my path.
    In a moment I had the perfect opportunity to hit them with my van and stop the obvious theft. At the same time damaging the stolen bike, my van, probably injuring the rider and making myself liable for dangerous driving causing harm and damage. Making insurance harder (if not impossible) for me to attain.
    I didn't hit them, I braked suddenly to avoid the collision. I then spent the next hour observing police zipping about the neighbourhood trying to catch them. I have been livid about this ever since.

    Even when we see crime taking place and have an opportunity to intervene - our best action is to do nothing.
     
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