My first bike was a 1200 sportster which I bought purely because someone at work knew someone who was selling it. I knew absolutely nothing about bikes or harleys or the image of harleys, I was buying it purely as a means of transport and the lad I knew said it was a great deal. My brother, a proper biker, was horrified. I rode it happily for three years, all weathers commuting and it was completely reliable and I liked it a lot. Sold it when I saw a 1098 on a French film. It's a grand bike and was cheap to buy, run and insure.
I might just add, I also have a super blackbird and a honda f6c Valkyrie which I bought really only because it looks like Judge Dredds bike. They are both absolutely brilliant bikes but I reckon the F6c would do what you want. And it is properly fast.
When I got my Low Rider S, because I bought it new I got one year's free membership of HOG (Harley owners group). It's not really my scene, badges and Hell's budgie handshakes etc, but I tagged along on a few runs as it cost me nowt and I could pick people's brains on a brand that was comletely new to me. It was actually quite good fun. The demographic was overwhelmingly over 50 but they did a lot of miles, two runs a week, at least, lots of charity runs and events (usually in aid of children's charities or the North East Air Ambulance) and they rode all year round in all weathers. There was blokes on £30,000 baggers doing Santa charity runs in December in rain and sleet. I admit, I wimped out on that. My bike was tucked up in a shed on an Optimiser. Most of them had European and/or Japanese bikes as well and a lot of them, particularly the younger ones, came to Harleys from sports bikes and saw no conflict in keeping both a Harley and an R1M or Panigale in the garage at the same time. TBH it was a bit of an eye-opener when it came to brand snobbery, which was always incoming came from other brand riders towards Harleys. I never saw the other way round, except for a bit of good natured ribbing. They were well organised and courteous too. We went out on a mid week evening run one summer and came across some horse riders on a back road. Simultaneously every bike pulled over and stopped and killed their engines until the horses had passed. Not sure I'd buy another Harley. Mostly because there isn't one in the current line-up I really want, or at least could afford. And I've owned a Rocket 3. Once you tasted cruisering with 170 odd ft/lb of torque it's hard to accept anything less. I find the Harley-hate tedious TBH. I don't care what anyone rides. I don't like Enfields myself. Not my thing at all. But I wouldn't knock someone else who does. They're all two-wheelers and that's all that matters to me.
When I bought the F6C at Macclesfield superbikes (who I genuinely couldn't recommend highly enough, for a deeply caring and personal assistance/service as my dad passed away when I was supposed to complete) there was a rocket in the corner which was the nicest looking bike I ever saw. Carbon and gold sounds awful but it was absolutely beautiful. 20k though sadly. I've always had them on my list, but the Valkyrie is such a nice bike I'll stick with it for a good while for my commuting.
I liked my Rocket. The ridiculous level of propulsion is hugely addictive. Nothing on two wheels pulls in 6th gear from 2000 rpm like those things. But I couldn't have had it as an only bike. It was just too big and cumbersome. Handling was ace on power on fast twisty roads and while it would out-haul mates on supernakeds on roll-ons it was hard work on nadgery B roads. My Harley was actually heavier than the Rocket - and the LRS is Harley's idea of a pared down "sports" model - but on the move it didn't feel it. Though the Rocket had better brakes and suspension (Harleys always seem to be under-sprung and under-damped, I think because the American market likes it that way) the Harley actually felt lighter. Maybe psychological because it had less sheer bulk. But I had doubts about the build quality of the Rocket. It was reliable and not in any way shoddy but little details had distant alarm bells ringing about how it would age. And I enquired at one point with Big CC racing about sticking a turbo on it (yeah I know but I've always been a more-is-more sort of person) and they said they'd worked on 2.5 Rockets before and had doubts about the quality of the Thai steel in the engine components and warned against trying to push them too far. It was at that point I traded it for a 1260 Diavel and I don't regret it in the least. I'm glad I've owned and experienced a Rocket 3. Everyone should ride one once. It really is an experience.
Buy what you like and fuck everybody else's views, if the fastest F1, Motogp and T T lads buys one then the rest would think well that's ok then and follow suit............maybe.
I agree, buy what YOU like, not what everyone else says you should buy. You’re the one who’s paying for it and riding it. On a serious note, you did ask for opinions. Two of my brothers shared a Sportster, they’ve just got rid of it. They used it for tootling around locally and found it too heavy. I rode it a couple of times and that was enough for me. Kicking it into gear was truly agricultural. It was slow but some people like that casual approach. The brakes, well, I’m not sure if I did the Steve McQueen thing or they eventually drifted to a stop. Did I mention it was heavy. Make a list of what ‘you’ want from it. By the sounds of it you want something low, easy to ride. Doesn’t have to be a performer… a relaxed ride. Basically I think there’s better out there. Weirdly the bro’s have just traded the Hardly Doesanything for a 500 Honda twin, costing €6,000 brand new out of the box. They’re both delighted with it as a runaround. I’ll probably ride it a couple of times and that’ll be that too. How old are you really because I know you’re not 27. My dad had two bikes in his garage until his dying day but they were BMW flat twins.
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It doesn't matter if it feels agricultural (it will coming from most modern bikes) or is heavy, or slow, or not a precision ride, it only matters that you get one if you want one for your own reasons. I bought my Triumph Thunderbird Nightstorm because I wanted to be able to chill out and still have a good ride, it didn't matter if I came up behind something slower on the road it was about slowing up and really enjoying it. For me HDs didn't hit the spot but the Triumph did, only you can make that decision. There is a reason there are so many different bikes and manufacturers out there, the world would be a very dull place if we all liked the same thing and as you've probably guessed I am definitely no brand biatch
I had forgotten that! When I rode my mates I had something like white finger after only a couple of miles. At the time I was mid 20s, the idea of that now is suddenly quite scary with how the rest of my joints are.
Sportsters are basically 1960's Iron head engines. They shudder on start-up and shake like a wet dog when you blip the throttle. So do the twin-cam big twins (the 1690 engines 103"). I took a 2010 1690 Fat Bob for a test ride a few years ago. If you rested your right knee against the air breather and blipped the throttle you risked dislocating your kneecap. The Milwaukee 8 engines are completely different animals. The 117" I had was smooth as silk. Couldn't feel any vibration whatsoever from resting a knee against the engine or air breather. In fact it vibrated less than my 1260 Duc and there was no visible shuddering on start-up. How they've managed to get a long-stroke push-rod V-twin with almost 1 litre per cyclinder to run so smoothly I've no idea. But anyone who test-rides an M8 Harley and then buys an old air-cooled Sportster thinking it'll be a cheaper, smaller version of the same thing will be in for a shock. They are, almost literally, a century apart.
Hi, Had 3 ( Superglide, Fatboy, Wideglide) over a 21 year period until they decided against the Bronx and dropped the Dynas so went back to Suzy GSX S1000, Multi, Hyper. With HD you either get it or you don't. The only HD I would now get is the RoadKing, 2015 is the best period with the 103 motor imho. The Black one with Silver pinstripes to be exact, Lastly the performance might surprise you. Regards Richard
Bought a pristine 883R in 2007 from Warrs. Bright silver, noisy pipes. Only chrome was the seat rails under the seat and the fork legs. Otherwise crinkly black. Over the years I added Hagon suspension - front fork springs for no bottoming out and some really nice all stainless shocks for the rear. Handling was good as all the weight was between your ankles. Tried standard pipes and found no difference in performance so they stayed on. Still had a decent sound. 65mpg plus. What I liked was it was back to moped days - jeans jacket and boots and you were off, no clambering into leathers etc I felt I needed to don for my 999 I had at the time. Chugging around the lanes was best but motorways fine up to c.75mph then it ran out of steam. But I am 6'4" 18 stone-ish with all gear on. Looking back, what it needed was a 1200 conversion, but by that point I had my eye on a nice 1100 Breva to give me better utility over longer distances (I thought) so it got traded. Breva was another whole issue of sh*t what with vibating front brakes, oily weeps, poor starter wiring, invisibly corroded connectors, stripped gearbox drain plus etc etc. That needed Hagon fork springs too... Still got it, but in shed with a mystery profuse oil leak that appears around the cylinder bases (only when riding, not at idle) and a non working rear brake. Would fix it but knee op means I can't kneel and no proper workshop anyway. Wish I'd kept the Harley, even with non ULEZ compliance. It was very reliable and easy to live with. Nothing could beat it on a sunny July evening for a quick spin across Surrey & Sussex down to the coast. Should also mention it had twin discs on the front so it stopped and hydraulic valves so servicing was literally brake bleed and oil and filter.
