Yep, if you buy a Land Rover as a Fashion accessory, drive it and treat it like one, you'll end up with issues with your ingenium. Karma I call it.
Personally I would have one of these - the legend that is the Toyota Land Cruiser. Not just the new one but any Toyota Land Cruiser. Don't know anything about their costs. But, in my humble understanding there is no better car in the world.
Slightly going off piste. These cars are more for the off roading enthusiasts I don’t think you’ll see a jaecoo axel deep in mud anytime soon.
Yep, love the look of the new Toyota, shame it's got a silly little 2.0l engine. OK for most uses, but for towing etc there is no substitute for CCs Oh, and sorry, yes, I've taken this thread off topic.
Hang on a minute, that giant car above that looks like it can cross continents has a feeble little 2.0L engine?! I thought they had a hoofing great V8, to match the rugged looks.
Apologies, it's a 2.8l, but a 4 cylinder, not a smoother 6 or 8. Built to last though, and rugged, but apparently with a few compromises on-road because of it. It's more Ineos Grenadier than new LR Defender. And all the better for it in my opinion.
nothing wrong with a four cylinder if longevity is your priority, Volvo owners of the 80's would certainly agree i'm sure, and just read that it has a twin-shaft balancer system.
I agree Chris, but the buyers who won't will be the ones comparing it to their X5 or Q7. On the other hand, it may discourage the fashion accessory buyers away from 'proper' workhorses.
I haven't had a Landrover in 25+ years. We were living in Breckenridge and due to the massive snowfall (average 40ft each season), I bought my ex wife a Disco. Wonderful seats, excellent vision. Always started. Often broke down. Compared to my Wrangler it was crap in snow too. Rear halfshaft issues. She loved it! Then she wrote it off... I don't tow so AWD is all I will ever need in a knockabout sporty hatch, and TBF I'm pretty unlikely to ever need that either. But I like having it!
In NZ the new Toyota 4 cyl 2.8 TD has the same kW and more torque than the previous V8 engine. 4 Cyl - 150 kW, 500 Nm torque, V8 - 151 kW, 430 Nm.
When the British weather turns crap - heavy rain like we have had all winter. Crap all over the flooded roads - matters much less in a Land Cruiser. I saw one on Youtube channel - a V8 petrol version in the US - it had 350,000 miles on it and the motor was running beautifully. They plugged it into a diagnostic reader and all the cam tolerances and internals were working perfectly. Amazing things - but sorry if we have gone off subject a bit !
Ah ok. No problem with a 4 cylinder, but when you said 2.0l in something as big as that, it did sound a bit odd.
The Legend that is Scotty Kilmer and his arm waving "get a toyota !" Here with a 303,000 mile V8 Land Cruiser. I can't find the vid where he has one was plugged into the diagnostics - but it was on his channel.
Nicked from an article on Facebook………. Chinese Vs Legacy manufacturers There have been long standing relationships between western 'legacy' manufacturers and Chinese companies for a number of years. XPeng with VW SIAC (mg) with Audi Great Wall with BMW Chery with JLR Geely owns Volvo BYD and Mercedes BIAC and Mercedes And lots lots more besides When it comes to parts it’s even more apparent with European brands increasingly buying Chinese parts due to cost and quality. For example BMW buy all the glass components for the Mini from China, not for price but for quality. Temu Range Rovers AKA Jaecoo (Chery) make Range Rover for the Asian markets under licence. Legacy manufacturers have huge reputations to keep, which is of course what they trade on "the badge". They would only enter into collaborations after proper diligence ensuring the quality of both parts and manufacture. Neo, Geely, Chery, SIAC etc are not new to the automotive industry, just new to European markets. They are far from small, infact most are bigger in scale and output than most of our western brands. Undoubtedly the Chinese are making a move on the European, for that matter the global market. They will do this with cheap but quality cars at tech and price points that will have European manufacturers in a tail spin. In just one year Jaecoo-7 has become the second best selling car in the UK (Jan 2026) it took Kia and Hyundai 20yrs to get the market penetration that Chery have achieved in just one year. If I worked for Stalantis I would be worried, very very worried. Temu Range Rovers produced by some of the world's best collaborative manufacturers at a price point we could only dream of just 5 yrs ago. So when you are next considering buying a Range Rover for north of £100,000 or a Mercedes consider this; would they, the manufacturer buy cheaper Chinese components for such an expensive car. Of course they do....... Chinesium, we are all driving them in one way or another, the so called better brands cannot wait to jump into bed with them and there is a chance they made more of your current car than you think.
When you bought your Chinese Range Rover did they force your hand to promote future sales on their behalf or is this something of a hobby for you?
Everything is a hobby in my little world I’m just pointing out that everyone and everything is touched by the Chinese in one way or another
