I guess you mean one of those would be Iran. I am no fan of Trump but i disagree that the attacks on Iran are illegal. As soon as the revolution happened in 1979 the islamic lunatics declared war on America. They also started killing them almost immediately as well.
The current war in Iran is illegal. There is no dispute about that whatsoever. Article 2(4) of the UN Charter prohibits the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. Preemptive self-defence, has extremely narrow prescriptions under the Caroline doctrine. It requires a threat to be “instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means”. No such conditions existed with Iran on February 28. On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown in a coup d'état that strengthened the rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran. This was the first time the Iranian government was attacked by the US & UK. Following the coup, a government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the shah of Iran (Persian for 'king'), to rule firmly as monarch. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power. The so called Shah, instigated huge repression against his own people using a system of secret police and torture. Thats why the current regime came into power. So its fine to be critical of International law, but whilst it remains the law you cannot reasonably describe breaking it to be legal. I am no supporter of the current Iranian government. But that does not mean it is OK to bomb the country 24/7 with the clearly stated aim of "regime change". The other war I cited was the military attacks, bombing in Venezuela, and kidnapping of Maduro.
You have to be a real special kind of left wing if you're fine with letting a country kill at least 20 thousand people because they don't want to wear a fancy hat but have as problem with the guy trying to stop it. I am truly impressed with your conviction
The claims that the Iranian government are repressive by our standards I would agree are true. The sources of the information about the atrocities are probably not true and certainly unreliable. Why would you believe a government source that claims this number? The same government that said they had totally destroyed Irans nuclear abilities just five months ago: The US simply cannot have destroyed them last autumn and no need to be there destroying them again. An obvious lie. The same government that claims Iran was just weeks away from starting a nuclear holocaust. An obvious lie. The same government that claims the Venezuelan government run illegal shipments of drugs into the USA. The USA has never been able to show any evidence to support this whatsoever. The attack was to remove Maduro -who had the ability to rally his country to resist- the USA taking over their entire oil production. An obvious lie. The same government that claims any country that has a surplus with the USA is extorting them and is required to pay tariffs. The BFOC doesn't even include all the elements of the trade, only enough to mean a payment is due. An obvious lie. The same government who started a war in Iraq which has led to 300,000 dead Iraqis. There was no nuclear WMD. An obvious lie. The same government that backs 100% the Israeli genocide of Palestinian people with at least 80,000 dead and more under the rubble, in addition to withholding food water and medicines. An obvious lie. The same government that supplies the Israeli military to attack Syria & Lebanon (and Iran) to promote peace. An obvious lie. The same government who claims that they needed to colonise Greenland against the will of the local people, due to some need to increase the USA defence program. The USA has closed at least a dozen bases, has a permanent agreement to operate multiple military bases and unlimited troop deployment. An obvious lie. These are all major incidents that are all current and fresh (except Iraq) in the minds of the world. There are far more too. So I would ask you about why your eyes and mind are closed to these obvious lies, to chronicled civilian deaths and misery yet you are focussed on the "alternative facts" from a proven liar? Maybe that takes a special kind of person?
For the reason i stated before, i disagree. I will say it again, The current Iranian regime declared war on America. They have, since the day they came to power, bombed and killed Americans and every president since has sought legal means to bring Iran to heal. There comes a time when the only course of action that is likely to work is to meet force with force. That day came a couple of weeks ago. I know all about the CIA installing the Shah, dont see what its got to do with the Regime that toppled him, they are the ones sponsoring murder all around the world and especially against America. They had it coming. In addition, the UN charter is not the only legal entity that decides when action is justified. In addition, addition, i dont care. The sooner the radical islamic world tastes its own medicine the better for the rest of the world. Natural justice sometimes trumps ( sorry) law. That day has come.
Yesterday I watched an Iranian couple shaking hands with a Jewish friend of mine in regards to the Israeli state fighting against the Iranian government. They agreed with what is happening. Doubt they wanted a harley though.
Glad you were able to finally enunciate your true position. "You don't care" and its all the fault of the Islamics. What took you so long?
I think for the most part that is a media led lie, we still get on just fine in real life, well certainly my pals and I do and we don't all share the same ideologue.
For what its worth, my true position is/was never hidden. It just had nothing to do with my view that America has a right to defend itself against a regime that declared war on it. On the Islamic point though, Yes i do think radical Islam is the greatest threat to everyone else and should be dealt with once and for all. Remember that virtually every terrorist action for the past 40 years has been sponsored by Iran. Imagine what the world would be like without all that crap every day somewhere in the world. Before you tell me that there have been other terrorist groups note that i said 'virtually'. I suggest you check out this site that logs what these nutcases do every day. Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
Radical religion of any kind is dangerous and any religion can be hijacked by political knobheads. It doesn’t matter what the religion is - it’s been done in the name of Christianity and Judaism just the same. If you do some research into the Middle East you will find the reason many hate western ideology is much to do with how we have treated them in the past. The state of Israel only really came about because of Jewish terrorists attacking British subjects in Palestine in what they figured were their lands.
Guatemalan Civil War -ended 1996 US involvement in Angolan Civil War (1975–2002) (1960–1996) Contra War (1979–1990) Salvadoran Civil War (1979–1992) Gulf of Sidra incident (1981) Multinational intervention in Lebanon (1982–1984) United States invasion of Grenada (1983) Bombing of Libya (1986) Operation Golden Pheasant (1988) United States invasion of Panama (1989–1990) Gulf War (1990–1991) First U.S. Intervention in the Somali Civil War (1992–1995) Monrovia clashes (1998) Venezuela & Iran (2026 - ) As you can see the USA has hardly had a year when it was not involved in major conflict somewhere in the world during all of the last 40 years. I left a significant number of other "involvements/attacks" which some could consider were in some way justified. The Americans do not consider that the Iran's declared war on them, so you will understand that I )and perhaps others) find it odd that you claim otherwise. Do you believe in fairness and equivalence? If so do you not wonder why the American held years of war in Guatemala? With regard to terrorism, have you forgotten the IRA, Badermeinhoff, Isis, Al Qaeda, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). Liberation Party-Front (DHKP/C), Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), Basque Homeland and Liberty (ETA) and many many more, all unrelated to Iran. Even the Americans had McVeigh the bombing itself killed 168 people (including 19 children), injured 684 people in Oklahoma.
It appears -based on your comments here- that you believe the media when it supports your own POV and disparage it when it does the reverse. Not an unusual behavior, but worthy of some thought
Do you th Do you think one of them knew E. Jean Carroll? We can stop guessing and talk about proven rape if you like? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll BTW: I personally think it wrong to conflate being Jewish with being a supporter of the Israeli government.
The first Israeli Government was made up of individuals who the UK considered to be terrorists. Ben Gurion, Menachrn Begin were both members of Zionist terrorist organisations who killed UK citizens, but went on to become PM of Israel.
Nonsense. From almost the day it started this religion has mandated to kill non believers wherever they are found simply for the reason that they are not followers of the same sky fairy. In fact the biggest killers of muslims are other muslims. Remember that the crusades were a response to 450 years of blood thirsty raiding from the west coast of ireland to as far east as their boats could take them. Forgive me i cannot remember how far east they actually reached but you get the idea.
Actually I cut those figures (20k)by 50% too allow for media inaccuracy that might or might not be enough as I'm not there counting myself.thoughts?
