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DarR · Apr 1, 2026 at 5:46 PM

Multirider75 said: ↑

Yeah, agreed, there’s nowhere to go from here. Even if they did a new version with more power, it would be pointless.
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Very true. Actually, usable (real world riding) power has been decreasing. Nobody really pays attention to it as manufacturers always post peak power which is seldomly used, and if used, it's only for a brief moment. Mid-range power is seldomly discussed. Neither is torque although not shown here where there's massive differences between the old and the new. I've posted this comparison awhile back just to illustrate the differences. BTW, all these numbers were exported from BHKUK charts.

Duc_Kab · Apr 2, 2026 at 3:49 PM

After all, you need a 1:1 comparison of the bikes measuring acceleration in all gears.

If you say 'Horsepower', mention 'Torque', you should not forget the final drive ratio including gearbox. thats why a direct power to power comparison is misleading.

Only the full picture defines the 'feeling' on the bike. Not saying that the one or the other is better.

Just my 0.02$.

gc6269 · Apr 2, 2026 at 4:48 PM

I'm of the opinion that my V4 PP is not appreciably quicker than my 1260 PP, but the mid range torque feels more, not necessarily better, just more.

So I think I'm agreeing with you.

Doffy Partridge · Apr 3, 2026 at 7:53 AM

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After 3 years, and 10k miles on the Pikes Peak, a decision had to be made whether to keep the PP for another year, or trade it in for another one. I’ve said on here many times that the V4 Pikes Peak was the best bike I’ve ever had, so it was a tough decision to make.

That bike took me all over Europe several times, and didn’t skip a beat. Not one single issue. The performance was mind blowing with the full system, it was all you’d ever need in a bike. Chuck a bag on the back, and disappear for a week, two weeks, a month, it was built to munch up the miles.

A chat with my dealer, and he offered me exactly the same trade in as he did this time last year, so that put the wheels in motion. The natural replacement would have been another Pikes Peak, as it was so good, but there was always a voice inside my head saying to get an RS. I’d said on here that it was pointless, not worth the extra money, blah blah blah, but those that know me knew that I’d end up with one.

So, the negotiations were underway, and I was offered a discount on an RS, coupled with a bit of jiggery pokery on the trade in, a generous discount on new accessories, and the transfer of several parts from the ‘old’ bike to the new one at no charge. And the deal was done.

The bike arrived last week, I spent a few hours fitting some PPF, then took it out for the first time last weekend. The sound on tickover is very different. The dry clutch sound takes some getting used to. The way it delivers the power is different. I was concerned about the “lack” of torque compared to the the Pikes Peak, but on the first ride, realised that in the real world, there is certainly no lack of torque.

Compared to the PP, you need to keep the revs higher at low speeds, which I’m still getting used to. But, once you get going, fuck me, the way this thing goes is like nothing I’ve ever ridden. It is ballistic. I knew it would be impressive, but didn’t realise quite how crazy it would be.

An overtake on the PP at around 70/80mph it would just pull like a train, and would get to ban territory in seconds. This thing, on the same road, with the same throttle response takes you into prison territory. It is utterly bonkers. It hits 7/8k rpm, then it just comes alive. It gets into silly speeds, and is rock solid, with no waggle or concept of how fast you’re going. Without digging a hole for myself, working out the revs and speeds that it does, this could hit not far off 200mph, on the right roads. I’ve gone from worrying about the postman coming, to worrying about being dragged off and waterboarded before being thrown into a dark cell! And it’s not even run in yet.

It handles as good as the Pikes Peak did, but you’re just going so much faster. I will genuinely say, and this might upset a few people, but in the real world, point to point, nothing will touch this, and it will get from A to B on a mixture of roads faster than any superbike. I had an S1000XR, but on white roads, it was like a jackhammer, so unless they’ve done something to the suspension on the M1000XR, feel that will suffer on the sort of roads I ride on. Whoever at Ducati decided to put a Panigale engine into a Multistrada is a lunatic/ genius.

I’m pleased with my decision, but need to learn some self restraint. Today was a good day, I was mostly good, with the odd moment of crazy. I wasn’t going to get a full system, but just want to see how much crazier it can get, so will check with my insurance company on Monday if it attracts a higher premium (Ducati insurance to all you boring anoraks, and YES, they will have the part number and full description of the system before I go ahead), so that may go on at the first service.

If I don’t post for a while, then I’ve probably been locked up, and will do my best not to drop the soap.

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Loved your review, mate. Hilarious. Glad I got a Grand Tour. Phew.

Mark Arnold · Apr 3, 2026 at 8:01 AM

DarR said: ↑

Very true. Actually, usable (real world riding) power has been decreasing. Nobody really pays attention to it as manufacturers always post peak power which is seldomly used, and if used, it's only for a brief moment. Mid-range power is seldomly discussed. Neither is torque although not shown here where there's massive differences between the old and the new. I've posted this comparison awhile back just to illustrate the differences. BTW, all these numbers were exported from BHKUK charts.

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This data obviously only shows HP from the engine I think the best comparison is made when you watch 650ib on YouTube where he has an RS and races a PP and a M1000XR
From a 3rd gear test the RS smokes both the PP and M1000XR however when speed is up to 160mph the HP of the M1000XR finally overtakes the RS
So the conclusion is the RS is the fastest up to 160mph and after watching the video you will see just how much faster the RS is than the Pikes Peak so all this talk on its down on torque etc etc is completely undone in the video as the RS is geared totally different and redlines at 13.5k

duke63 · Apr 3, 2026 at 8:39 AM

The only statistic worth shit is how a bike makes YOU feel when you ride it. We are not racers so 0.5 second quicker to 60 mph is pretty pointless.
I have a Hyper 698 and I reckon on back roads it will be quicker than all 3. You won’t ever see 3 figure speeds on those roads unless you are flying through a hedge into a field.

Mark Arnold · Apr 3, 2026 at 8:43 AM

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The only statistic worth shit is how a bike makes YOU feel when you ride it. We are not racers so 0.5 second quicker to 60 mph is pretty pointless.
I have a Hyper 698 and I reckon on back roads it will be quicker than all 3. You won’t ever see 3 figure speeds on those roads unless you are flying through a hedge into a field.
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Quite agree everyone is different in what they want out of a bike - however I do get fed up with lazy journalists who actually haven't ridden both bikes side by side but just go on what's written down in front of them
Enjoy the Hyper - great fun bike

Captain · Apr 3, 2026 at 7:06 PM

Power comparisons are okay , but put that into a road , conditions , rider , braking , corner exit , speed carry etc etc
Plus ability …

Mark Arnold · Apr 3, 2026 at 7:09 PM

Captain said: ↑

Power comparisons are okay , but put that into a road , conditions , rider , braking , corner exit , speed carry etc etc
Plus ability …
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Oh ability - you got me there that's where I fall down

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