Random Or Interesting News Thread

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by DucatiScud, Jul 4, 2021.

  1. I see it's not American lettuce but Mexican lettuce; I can't wait to see what The Donald will make of it...
     
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  2. German politician faces calls to resign over surrogacy child

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq56ed827peo

    German centre-right politician Jens Spahn has been accused of double standards, after he revealed he and his husband had become parents using a surrogate mother in the US.

    Surrogacy is banned in Germany - a policy firmly backed by his Christian Democrat party, and several years ago by Spahn himself.


    Let's see him talk his way out of this one...
     
  3. Haha. Yeah. A likely story.

    I suspect that wasn’t his first dance with Mary Jane and as Labs are greedy at the best of times, I can’t imagine what they’re like when they get “the munchies”
     
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  4. "Anyone who advocates for rules politically should be able to explain clearly why those rules apparently do not apply to them personally."
     
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  5. That politician should throw in throw in the towel, but unfortunately he laid it on a poolside lounger earlier this morning...
     
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  6. German politician resigns over surrogacy child controversy

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq56e9n1ddzo

    German centre-right politician Jens Spahn has resigned as parliamentary group leader of the country's governing coalition after being accused of hypocrisy over his use of a surrogate mother in the US to have a child.
     
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  7. Pupil not guilty of trying to murder history teacher after stabbing her in the head

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cglj43pn525o

    "A pupil has been found not guilty of attempted murder after stabbing his teacher in the head with a kitchen knife.

    The boy, 16, followed Vicki Williams into her empty classroom at Milford Haven Comprehensive School in Pembrokeshire, after asking for help with his history work on 5 February.

    He pulled a knife from his bag and lunged at her."


    How; just, how? How do you not find someone guilty of attempted murder when they stab someone in the head with a large knife; and how can you not unanimously find him guilty of wounding with intent? Perhaps it is time for a change from the jury system...
     
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  8. It sounds like a perfectly reasonable verdict. Here’s how.

    Attempted murder is probably the most difficult charge to prosecute because it requires the Crown to prove that the defendant specifically intended to kill the victim. Murder is actually much easier to prove as it doesn’t require specific intent to kill - merely a specific intent to cause GBH. It’s basically s.18 GBH but the victim died. The victim in this case didn’t die and the boy was (probably correctly) convicted of s.18 GBH.

    As for why one or two jurors didn’t think he was guilty of s.18, only the lesser charge of s.20, the answer probably lies in the evidence presented at trial, which nobody apart from them and the other participants in the trial, have seen and heard.
     
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  9. Monkey abandoned in laundry bag on London bus

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70g8wez8r1o

    "The driver took the animal to the Metroline depot in Willesden before contacting the RSPCA.

    It has since been named Oyster, after the London travelcard."

    As if being abandoned wasn't bad enough, they've named her Oyster o_O
     
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  10. But the jury have heard enough evidence to establish that he did stab the woman in the head. And what the weapon was that he used. And that he carried that weapon to that place.

    I understand that there might be some procedural legal niceties and that it is of course correct that most of us were not there and should not speculate. But, FFS the established facts should be enough.
     
  11. It’s not a procedural legal nicety. It’s the definition of the offence. None of us were there either at the incident or in court and reports always omit a lot of information, so it’s impossible to say why the jury didn’t find there was specific intent to kill but did find there was specific intent to cause really serious injury
     
  12. Well i clearly didn't do a very good job of getting my point across.
     
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