Okay, I've had the 748R running with a modified front loom to run the oil pressure, rev counter, water temperature gauge and the kill switch running off a shorting switch to replace the key. I haven't actually started it today but hace switched it on and the oil light works and the fuel pump bursts into life for a few pumps until it is pressurised. My girl friend helps me put the bike on my trailer ready to run down to Moto Rapido in the morning for a full service before it goes to the dyno. The Multi goes on the trailer as well as it's nearly 2 years old and has been booked in for a service too. I accidently flicked the shorting switch that had been lighting everything up and ..... nothing ! I've checked all the fuses in the fuse box, the regulator fuse and the two injector fuses and all check out less than 0.5 ohms. Battery has 13.5 volts and never let me down. I've even refitted the standard loom and key ignition and ..... absolutely nothing. What am I missing, is there another fuse that if blown cuts all power ? Andy
Hi Andy, the only one i can think of is the 40amp just in front of the battery. Other than that I'd check the earth to the engine and make sure the connection to ecu hasn't worked loose while pushing it about. I've worked on a bike that started fine but cut out when you sit on it. That turned out to be a wire that had got cut but the ends just touched, until sat on or bounced where upon the poorly routed loom stretched just enough to pull the wire apart. The smallest things can be the biggest problems. On a seperate note, I recieved my parcel in the week. Thx
I would have put it down to the main fuse as well if everything is dead. The battery is making proper contact I take it? I have had a battery connected, or so I thought and despite being tightened on both terminals they were not making proper contact, that could have a similar result.
Just a thought - what about the small connector on the starter motor - I knocked this off once, it was very loose and had similar symptoms. Good luck rdw
Hi Paul, took it to MR Saturday anyway and spoke to Mark about the issue so he flicked the switch and ........ the fffing thing worked ! Intermittent, that's all I need. Tom has been working on the bike since Monday and it seems to have been running okay if a little lumpy on tick over. It's had valve clearances, plugs and belts and after a mistake on my part, a front end triple clamp rebuild. The 916 Racing 30mm offset bottom yoke should have been heated before inserting the pin which has a nylon bush slightly bigger than the hole it's supposed to go in so as itdidn't get heated, it didn't fit properly ..... doh ! Full marks to Tom who picked up on it. After I get it back I'll do a shake down and see if anythig is obvious and report back. Andy
Oh don't talk intermitant. I'm yet to look at mine after it was cutting on out the dyno in December. I still haven't even gone to pick it up. As usual the stuff I want done takes a back seat :frown:
This is going bad to worse. I had a phonecall from the workshop today to let me know that my clutch pressure plate has been badly scored by in an incorrectly located driven plate and is about to disintigrate and the clutch is full of crap because a friction plate had been incorrectly located and now had no friction material on it . Hang on a minute, in the paperwork given to me when I bought the bike there is a receipt for a new plate kit and a new basket and an invoice for fitting both to the bike during a service carried out in May 2013 at 7500 miles. A 1000 miles later of which I have probably done 60, the preparation work for the track costs another £200. As the bike has changed hands since the service, although only 4 months after, I don't see any prospect of getting any recompense because the bloke I bought it from will claim he did nothing to the bike after the service (and why should he having paid to get the clutch fitted ?) and I can see the dealer who fitted it denying all responsibility because how does he know that something hasn't been done since he did the service. Oh well, that's the Valentine's night out down the pan and me in the dog house . Andy
A standard 748R ramp slipper. Although I have yet to see the damage, what I was told is that a friction plate had been put in the basket first and the final plate was a full size steel driven plate which over the 1000 odd miles has eaten through the pressure plate. I've been looking at parts list pictures and service book pictures and there is a difference bewteen models. I can only assume the mechanic who did the work didn't know enough to ask if there was a difference. Andy
Bugger! I get the friction plate getting mashed being put in first, but dont get how the pressure plate got damaged by a steel plate? Anyhoo, good luck getting it sorted...:smile:
It could be a poor set of plates from new. When I bought my 998 (from new) I went to have a Sigma slipper clutch fitted just after 1,000 miles, three plates had no material on them at all and some of the steel plates were very blue. The clutch didn't slip and for half the period I had been running the bike in. No idea what happened but a new set of plates and it never happened again. The original clutch hub, outer etc. was perfect. Bad manufacturing.
I was told by a man in the know, that the friction should go on first with a slipper, so that it doesn't drop down behind the drum when the clutch ramps itself open. A thinner steel is likely to drop into that gap. Although, it could all be wrong, as I've been up since 11am.
Okay so I've been down to MR's to collect my Multistrada 1200s following its second year service and have been shown the evidence. Whoever rebuilt the clutch with the new plates and basket put a plain steel plate in first and a friction plate in last. The flat steel ring and the heads of the countersunk screws that secure the ring to the Flange (with the posts) are scored and shiny but not terminally and the Pressure Plate after it ripped all the friction material off the friction plate has been worn away terminally because the pack ended up too short and you are left with a steel plate rubbing against the aluminium Pressure Plate which has just been ground away. Lucky it didn't happen when I get to Cartegena . On a different subject whilst I was at MRs I met Kope999R who was just unloading his bike. What a nice bloke and what a bike, very subtle and understated until you begin to pick out the bling and then you begin to dribble over some seriously trick kit. Andy
Just got back from Moto Rapido's having collected the 748R after its track preparation "service". Have to say that the boys have done me proud having rectified the horrors and spent that little extra time making sure the bike is truly ready for Cartegena in 5 weeks time. Also had some minor tweaking done by Wilf on the dyno and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. Compared to my 748sp based 853 the 748R is making respectable figures without anything more than fitting a 50mm 996sps system. Couldn't resist firing it up before putting it on the trailer and just the sound of it blew away all the earlier disappointments and I'm if I wasn't already getting excited about Spain, I am now. Still got to fit the bodywork and come up with a paint scheme but I have uploaded a few more pictures in my 748 Factory Racing project album. Andy
