Legality of all-in-one rear lamps

I doubt if an MOT tester would fail it, but it might fall foul of Construction and Use Regs....

....IIRC there is a distance requirement between indicators and tail/stop light.

In fact I just found this extract on another site.....

6.3. Direction indicator lamps

6.3.1. Two per side.

6.3.3.1.2. The distance between the inner edges of the illuminating surfaces of the rear indicator lamps must be at least 180 mm.

6.3.3.2. Height: minimum 350 mm, maximum 1 200 mm above the ground.

6.3.3.3. Length: the distance towards the front between the transverse plane corresponding to the extreme longitudinal rearmost extremity of the vehicle and the centre of reference of the rear indicators must not exceed 300 mm. 6.3.6. May be grouped with one or more lamps.

6.3.7. May not be combined with any other lamp.

6.3.8. May not be reciprocally incorporated with another lamp.

6.3.9. Electrical connections

Direction indicator lamps must switch on indenpendently of the other lamps. All direction indicator lamps on one side of a vehicle must be switched on and off by means of one control.

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I'm no expert maybe wait for Andy

I do know indicators are required to be spaced a certain distance apart. Although not an MOT test point, it could still get failed as testers seem to be a law unto themselves or a very clued up plod could pull ya.

I have no idea where they stand if they are also installed with indicators as well.

Genrally I don't think it would be much of a problem as its not on the general pull list. Its not like its a small plate or super loud pipes which I reckon are both a lot more likely to have you seeing blue spots in front of your eyes

John

 

What I don't understand is how car manufacturers have got away with the stupid idea of embedding amber (although clear when not flashing) indicators within an outer ring of bright red LED rear lights on the rear of cars. It definitely makes it more difficult to see when the indicator starts flashing; I think I've even seen them on a bus recently. It's also puzzling that cars often now have the front indicators inboard of the headlights, or at least at the inner edge of them, which seems the wrong way round.

 

I reckon they should fail on any of the above points

 

I had an integrated rear light on my TL1000, and it went through 3 mots without any mention at all.

 

i put a sequential one on my 1098, i took it off as i had trouble getting through the MOT, not because of the indicators, it was due to the fact it flashed 3 times when you apply the brakes

i think its in the garage now somewhere, looks like this thing

Ducati 848 1098 1198 Sequential LED Tail Lights Clear Lens - YouTube

 

https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/2013/03/21/your-questions-answered-march-2013/

 

I've an integrated rear light on my 1098. One MOT tester says its a fail as they arn't far enough apart, another says its fine. Guess who I go to?
I will say they certainly tidy up the back of my bike

 

My tester won't put them thru on the distance rule. Tbh, MOT and type approval aside, the issue for me is if you get arse ended turning right 'cause they couldn't/didn't see the indicator over the brake light, then the insurance will have a field day on the use and construction infringement.

 

The mot tester I use is extremely strict, he won't even book your bike in unless it's got a full size numberplate and standard exhausts, yet he was absolutely fine with the integrated rear light. His attitude is that the rear light is to warn people behind that you're about to do something other than carry on in a straight line, and if it means they have to concentrate more, it can only be a good thing.