1200 Another Gone Bang

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by Drdaveboy, Jun 23, 2014.

  1. Just reading on adventurebikerider forum another 1200 gone bang , 6 months out of warranty but not yet had the major service and another main bearing failure luckily ducati picking up the tab
     
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  2. Well that's good news......the bit that a Ducati are paying I mean.
     
  3. Anyone know why the main bearing has failed in the first place? Does not sound like an old well used machine.
     
  4. All sounds a bit OTT doom and gloom. So a bike engine failed, it happens. It was out of warranty and Ducati are still honouring support. The vast majority of bikes are fine but of course a failure often makes forum-worthy news so we know about more of them than we do happy owners not having problems.

    It might be nice if the headline was "great service from dealer and Ducati".

    If you're bothered by this sort of worry, buy extended or aftermarket warranties or something sensible like an anorak.

    We have lots of people who seem to expect to be able to have completely fault free engines but who at the same time expect to be able to change the design of the exhaust, mess around with the ECU and then nail it through every bend.

    I really don't care too much about a failure, this headline makes it sound like a trend is starting, we are all doomed and running ticking time bombs. It sounds like Ducati are sorting an issue they have no formal liability for and no doubt the bike will be up and running again.
     
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  5. I agree Count, although I am not sure about the lack of formal liability. It might be out of warranty but that is not the end of liability.
     
    #5 johnv, Jun 24, 2014
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  6. My fridge freezer broke the other day...... Mortified I was and I'll never buy another samsung product again......apart from the two phones we have...tablet.....TV......surround sound......kettle..........yeh.....apart from them :rolleyes:

    Honestly, shit breaks.

    I think the problem with a Ducati is that people buy in to the 'brand' either in an elitist manner or by some weird misconception that it's expensive because it's better built.... Oh no no no!

    It's just a bike...made of parts, largely metal, a bit of carbon fibre and a sprinkle of cheese used for bolts.

    Like I said originally I thinks its bloody good of them to simply sort it.

    Shall we trawl the internet finding other things that have broken?
     
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  7. An exhaust bolt thread stripped in my '76 Kettle last week and I had to get it helicoiled.

    Suzuki just did not want to know, despite the fact, which I firmly reminded them of, that I last bought one of their bikes, a GSXR750-WN, as recently as 1992!

    They just don't play the loyal customer support card nowadays - well done Ducati ;)
     
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  8. i could do this all day. talking to a customer yesterday about his Renault espace that holed a piston several months after warranty expired despite several visits due to excessive smoke,(over fueling) needless to say they didn't want to know.
     
  9. My petrol mower went bang yesterday! There was a lot of white smoke, do you reckon it's knackered?

    Not happy, I loves that mower.
     
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  10. It would be interesting to know model years, not seen any mention of a '13 onwards having an issue..

    Nice to know Ducati are being so good to their customers with this as well.:upyeah: Just cant see Aprillia or Jap manufacturers taking the same approach
     
  11. Btw, had an issue with fuse box corrosion on GSXR1000 k8. This meant a roadside breakdown with no ignition , plus losing ALL power just after an overtake. 5000 miles at the time and four years old...did Suzuki want to know? Luckily the problem was fixable, as the fuse box apparently (according to dealer) was part of main wiring harness. Quote £600 plus labour!
    Mates k1600 bm, sprag clutch failure just outside of warranty with. Had to pay part.
    Ducati are doing well imo.
     
  12. A main bearing doesn't just go so there must be something else going on?
    The problem with these forums is that "one drop doesn't make an ocean" but reading this one often thinks it does....
    We must remember it's a mechanical product and these do break.
    The question is how well does the dealer/manufacturer look after you when it does?
    In this particular case it looks they have done the right thing, building reputation and improving their brand image!
    Well done Ducati!
     
  13. you say another,does this happen a lot then?.not enough information in the post im afraid,merely a daily mail heading really.
    have never thought about these adventure bikes much,not my style really.
    major service, whats that mileage at,guess its quite low.

    ducs do seem more fragile at low mileages these days,always had niggles but my older stuff have never ever popped mains/gearboxs etc,last time i had mains go was on two stroke mx bikes years ago n that was approx once every two months.heh.

    would be a bit simple of people to come on internet just to say how good things were wouldnt it, as obviously not being broken down, theyd be out riding.
    they do rave about the latest new shiny theyve bought so that would count wouldnt it for the positive side of things.
    dont see people complaining about those posts do we.

    knowing that stuff has a serious weakness is good to know in my book,save me from buying another "renault" for example :lol:

    obviously they will be posted one at a time and this should be encouraged,this is how a history of faults etc is built up.
    unless of course they are expected to all blow up on the same day each year.

    dont let fanboys put you off chaps,qualified information is far more useful than opinion.

    opinions are only good for starting wars.
     
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  14. Hmm.
    I can see both sides of this.

    I've had (and still have) a number of bikes from different manufacturers.
    No bike is perfect, and all have faults to some extent. Just look at the latest BMW RT issues.

    The point to all of this is not whether something trully is bullet-proof, its how your looked after when something occurs.

    My 2010 broke a ring at ~13k miles. long story short, Ducati eventually picked up the bill to replace parts under warranty.
    I sold the bike earlier this year with 20k on it and the new owner suffered a big end issue. ducati picked up the parts bill despite it being out of warranty, but IMO this is quite possible related to the previous repair, and they should have covered the entire bill.

    I don't expect a 4 year old bike ridden and maintained in accordance with its design criteria (and not modified or chipped) to give me a bill 50% of the value of the bike.
    Service intervals are set for a reason, to ensure fluids and parts are replaced before they fail. If big ends are being knocked out I would suggest there is a lubrication issue.

    If you go buy a cheapo chinese copy then you could say you get what you pay for.
    We have bought a premium brand product, and whilst everything fails, it still comes back to how they deal with you, especially when the failure results in big bills.

    How many have there been ?
    Well 5 now to my knowledge.
    Should we be worried ?
    well yes and no.
    If you have a 4 year old bike with 20k+ miles you might be worried, and think of selling.
    Unless your happy that the dealer / manufacturer will take care of you, and the bike won't leave you in the lurch and potentially spoil your holidays.

    I bought another MTS so I am personally happy they will look after me, but I do have a concern that the bike has the potential to ruin a holiday one day.

    I think the objective of this thread was to indicate another failure has occured. These need to be reported so that not only the manufacturers but the current owners can determine if there is an issue, and can therefore make an informed decision about whether to keep a bike (and for how long), and how to deal with an issue if it occurs.
    Broken Ohlins fork leg is a perfect example of this, as was the radiator and coolant issues.

    I don't see this as scaremongering, its sharing information.
    Once the information is shatred you can draw your own conclusions.
     
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  15. Is it only the MTS or the engine in general?

    5 that you know of, wonder how many bikes that is out of, a hell of a lot?
     
  16. Well, only figures I can find specifically are for "bikes produced while under Audi ownership" in 2012.
    2500 MS's - though we could take an average of that being nearer 7500 based on Audi only owning about a third of the total production for that year at all (obviously seasonal, new reg peak sales periods, offers on finance, new models etc being launched all have effect - impossible to pinpoint really, just a bit of a guess on my part).
    Also the "Megafactories" video quotes as being over 10,000 sold in the first year world wide. They have also had a record sales year in the UK so far too for 2014.
    So by 2013 - what we talking 15,000, 25,000?

    That's a lot of strudels...and 5 known engine fails...

     
  17. Could even be a factory based issue then?
     
  18. Mario had an extra portion of slag bol and Chianti that lunchtime
     
  19. Yes, it is not a lot percentage wise, but without sharing info it is impossible to draw any trends or conclusions.

    I counted myself unlucky, and put it down to the bike being an early one.
    None of my mates with mts's have had issues (yet), and do similar miles etc to me.

    To my knowledge all are 10 or 11 bikes.
     
  20. This is the most interesting part. If we were getting reports of late model failures then that would be cause for concern. As it 'looks', we could be talking a hand full of early bikes. You know what they say about not buying the first off the line models from ANY manufacturer..
    It may be worth doing a 3750mile oil change (?) for a bit piece of mind. Something I used to do with my long termer jap bikes.
    I will be extending the warranty for the 3rd year on my bike, simply because makes sense with any bike tbh. Also adds to value should I fancy a new 2015 bike, probably another MTS. Its a keeper for now and simply the best all rounder I have ever owned. Actually experienced more problems with previous Jap. bikes to be overly concerned over any of this.
     
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