What would happen if say myself from England was in scotland for 1 night and next morning I had to do a breath test and blew say 55 . I would eventually end up in court and get banned but as I wouldnt have broken an English law how could they take my English licence . Would it be like in france . Pay the fine and be banned in france but ok in England .
if you blew 55 in England you would be charged DD this in Scotland is as i understand it about a blood alcohol level......the legal limit for blood alcohol in England being 80 the breath alcohol is 35 but most dont do anything up to 39 and then at 40 to 50 you get the chance to change your breath sample for a blood sample ....
I am with you on the sympathy level, I think the law needs to be changed though, if you drink you don't drive full stop its the only fair way then everyone is in the same boat. I couldn't give a shit if it is just one glass of wine or half pint.
Yeah ok so change the numbers you know fine well what I meant . If you blew just over in scotland you would not be breaking an english law so how can you be banned in england . The breath alcohol of 35 must now be less in scotland. You cant be charged if you blow less so it must be lower.
I did The concentration of ethanol in blood, breath or urine constitutes important evidence for prosecuting drunk drivers. For various reasons, the reliability of the results of forensic alcohol analysis are often challenged by the defence. One such argument for acquittal concerns the notion that alcohol could be produced naturally in the body, hence the term 'auto-brewery' syndrome. Although yeasts such as Candida albicans readily produce ethanol in-vitro, whether this happens to any measurable extent in healthy ambulatory subjects is an open question. Over the years, many determinations of endogenous ethanol have been made, and in a few rare instances (Japanese subjects with very serious yeast infections) an abnormally high ethanol concentration (> 80 mg/dl) has been reported. In these atypical individuals, endogenous ethanol appeared to have been produced after they had eaten carbohydrate-rich foods. A particular genetic polymorphism resulting in reduced activity of enzymes involved in hepatic metabolism of ethanol and a negligible first-pass metabolism might explain ethnic differences in rates of endogenous ethanol production and clearance. Other reports of finding abnormally high concentrations of ethanol in body fluids from ostensibly healthy subjects suffer from deficiencies in study design and lack suitable control experiments or used non-specific analytical methods. With reliable gas chromatographic methods of analysis, the concentrations of endogenous ethanol in peripheral venous blood of healthy individuals, as well as those suffering from various metabolic disorders (diabetes, hepatitis, cirrhosis) ranged from 0-0.08 mg/dl. These concentrations are far too low to have any forensic or medical significance. The notion that a motorist's state of intoxication was caused by endogenously produced ethanol lacks merit So I stick by what I say if you are going to drive or ride don't drink.
( dare I say it ,, WTF ) but maybe we should follow the yankie doodle dandy fuk the world for our empire avenue of impairment.
Dont drink and drive is common sense and for those that do they deserve the consequences but all your post and paste proves is that zero alcohol is not possible . I can copy and paste to. Every living human body continuously produces ethanol (beverage alcohol) 24/7. It's called endogenous ethanol production. Human life does not exist without the presence of alcohol.
.08 probably would not show up on a breathalyzer so road side test as zero tolerance is achievable, if it shows up on a breath test its going to be a damn sight higher than that, which means they have been having a good drink down the boozer not acceptable. I am not against drinking I like a good piss up like anyone else and suffered a few hangovers but like you said common sense comes in to play as to whether you get behind a wheel or not.
so what is the problem,, are you jealous/ envy or what,, today I saw a girl get £ 400 fine and 6 points for no insurance, WTF !!! ( oh BTW,, yes I would have !! )
Seeing as you want to split hairs i'll ask my mate she is a copper. I am no chemist so cannot confirm but I do know maths The UK legal limit for drivers is 80 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood, often referred to as a BAC or blood-alcohol concentration. Roadside breath tests are not that precise so .08 of a mg aint gonna show if it did people would be nicked left right and center. 10% would equal 8mg so .08 is less than 1% hmmmmmm I reckon thats good enough for a zero.
If that same girl had crashed into your 30k porsche and killed your 21 year old wife and you got nothing you would think that 400 fine was well wasted . Should have lost her licence for life in my eyes.
People like that is what pushes everyone elses insurance premiums up and gives us something else to grumble about. If every driver bought insurance and drove/rode sensibly and never made a claim insurance costs would plummet. Hmmmmm scrub that last bit I just bought an 1199s and yes I would ride it everywhere at the legal speed limit ....... Like feck I would.
TBH , I don't think many cops are chemists either , or maybe they would have a better job,,,, but hey that don't stop them being mate,, but that's all...
