is it coincidence that the multistrada is a four in to one bike Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Percentages of "muslims" given in various sources are rarely defined, but usually seem to mean "people of muslim descent". And that category includes a proportion of ex-muslims and atheists (and closet atheists) of muslim descent. Discussion of the figures seem to contain a hidden assumption that all immigrants and residents of muslim descent (and all their descendants) are believing muslim religionists and will remain so. That assumption is false. I personally know several ex-muslims and non-believing muslims. Their number is increasing. Given some encouragement and support, they may grow in the same way as the number of ex- and non-believers of christian descent has grown, i.e. a lot. It is objectionable to include ex-muslims along with active muslims, and to regard them all as equally a threat.
I dared offer an opinion on the Multistrada forum once (I admit it was unsolicited) and was flamed so comprehensively that I got the message. I don't go there.
You'd have to be crazy to post there. No, really, it's a requirement. You aren't allowed to post there unless you are barking.
excellent post glid (152) first 5 mins basically showed we are all the same, what followed was obvious, to me anyhoo. and confirmation not that i needed it, the most educated can often be the most ignorant.
Hey Big Ears, dis the Holy Multistrada Forum at your peril...Journalist's are suggesting that by 2050 there will be an overwhelming majority of Multistrada's in this country . A Fatwa will be placed on you and you will be forced to ride a Harley Davidson without a Burkha
Barbarians at the gates of Rome ... just saying! Isis beheading of Coptic Christians on Libyan beach brings Islamists to the doorstep of Europe - Middle East - World - The Independent
Be careful, very careful! Names are being recorded; Loz, Gliddofglood, finm.... We are powerful and have connections. One day we will rule this Forum
There is a difference between IS, who are truly worrying, and mainstream Muslims, especially in Britain. It's not that I like their religion (which, I have made clear on previous threads, I don't) but there are a lot of them and most of them aren't set on world domination. In any case, I mentioned that 23% of the world is Muslim, but 35% of it is Christian. And guess who has the bigger bangs? It is neither possible nor desirable to have a Christian/Muslim war, so it's better to see how to live together by flagging up similarities rather than differences. Of course, if Britain wants to sleepwalk into a Muslim-dominated society, it will only have itself to blame, but I don't think this is remotely likely. The demographics are way against it.
It is rather heartening to see the Muslim world seems to be slowly starting to unite (in a fashion) against ISIL. Let's hope they are successful and the "moderates" prevail. Even Assad is getting positive airtime at the moment.
Yes, great film which I bigged up on some other thread. One commentator (The Guardian's man in Islamabad, in fact) mentioned that it was a bit simplistic as there is almost no mention of Pakistan. It's obviously not as definitive as a viewer might conclude, but it's a stylish and entertaining piece of film-making and the points it makes are cogent.
Thy enemy's enemy is thy friend! Hypocrisy rules - but I'm OK with enlightened self interest as espoused by Alexis de Tocqueville.
