Just raising the possibility as a discussion point. Other European countries have more pressing problems, see link. Mind you with free movement across EU borders, do you lot still maintain an air of complacency over the jihadi threat? Italy warned Libyan jihadists are ‘just south of Rome’ - Europe - World - The Independent
All down to Bush & Blair interfering in the Middle East and the EU interfering with European countries' ability to control their borders properly.
Quite possibly. But the world is changing and it's as well to be aware of that fact. Not saying that it's necessarily a bad thing but we will have to accommodate changes as the world order changes. World Muslim population by percentage (Pew Research Center, 2014) Muslim population growth refers to the topic of population growth of the global Muslim community. In 2006, countries with a Muslim majority had an average population growth rate of 1.8% per year (when weighted by percentage Muslim and population size).[1] This compares with a world population growth rate of 1.12% per year.[2] As of 2011, it is predicted that the world's Muslim population will grow twice as fast as non-Muslims over the next 20 years. By 2030, Muslims will make up more than a quarter of the global population. The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan American think tank based in Washington, D.C., that provides information on social issues, public opinion, and demographic trends shaping the United States and the world. It conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis, and other empirical social science research. It does not take explicit policy positions.
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I posted in another thread about what happened in Northern Ireland. Older generations believed all us young un's would have more extreme views, be more violent etc etc. The country was going to become a warzone. What is actually the case is young people are more accepting and care less about things that previous generations worry and actually fight about. It really will never come to pass. I don't see my friends, my siblings friends, of different religions, races as different or a threat. We are all on this planet together. In our minds this irrational fear of people who are different than you is something for the older generations. I'd estimate most people i know who are say 50 plus have concerns about immigration/islamification/eastern europeans. We don't. We really, really don't see the world in the same way as that. By 2050 when most of those people who are worrying are dead anyway, we will all just be getting on with our lives, accepting each other and occasionally having a laugh about all the past generations who read some books about some made up characters and took them really, really seriously.
I find it a little ironic that's all Sunni Islam is the state religion of the Maldives, and adherence to it is legally required for citizens by a revision of the constitution in 2008
There is a big difference. The jihadi movement is worldwide. We had some control over Northern Ireland as it was part of our own country. Not the same at all. Are you not worried about recent events? I'm worried for my children and grandchildren, not myself, and it seems that world leaders are all concerned too. Perhaps you could reassure them. Is it irrational to fear people who kill and maim? I don't think so, any more than it is irrational to fear being eaten alive when swimming in shark-infested waters. Successive generations have fallen foul of complacency here and elsewhere. You only have to look at the history of the 20th century to see that. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.
Not at all. I have nothing against Muslims whatsover. I have been to China, the Soviet Union, as was, and Cuba too - and I didn't like the regimes there. People are just people though. Conflation is the enemy of logic.
I certainly see nothing in that particular future that worries me. A uniformly complacent generation, with no one around to take advantage of a laissez-faire, politically naive population. No wolves in sheep's clothing. No external agitators or oppressors. No worries, fascism was so last century, dahling! What's not to like?
"WE" ?...who is this "we" and how do you propose to cope with the current crop of 14+yr old suicide bombers etc,the 16yrs old gangsters,drug dealers and general crim population. And of course the next 20 generations of brainwashed religion led nutters. Do you perhaps live on a different planet to those of your age group and below?. Getting on with your lives until such a person or persons decide they would rather do it all differently.. i take this is a localised plan set up by your local sunday church because it seems to me you have no idea whats coming and that the plan is simply to stick head in sand and fart for england. As an aside ,50yr olds?..NONE of the current(sic) suicide bombers nor any of the terrorist gunmen have been 50yrs old,they have ALL been your age... hmmmm..new plan needed methinks.
Genuine question then ST. What's the answer to it all? Fair enough reporting the extremes but what do the joint governments of the world do? The Christian countries have to tread lightly in view of all the atrocities they have inflicted on the non believers for the past how many millennia....the milder Muslim countries would have to denounce their own faith and alienate their own population, whoever is left don't have the clout to do anything at all....so, what do you do here, or what have your past three threads been pushing towards? Muslims out of Britain? Banned as a religion? Removal of mosques? Tagging all Muslim men up to the age of 50? I know that sounds facetious, but I'm scratching my head to see what could even come halfway to being a solution, it's not that I disagree entirely with what you've said, it's just so far no ones come up with a way to fix it. ATB. G
But as I posted earlier, the same Pew Research Center says that Muslims already make up 23.2% of world population, so the fact that they will have added another 1.8% in the next 15 years is scarcely earth-shattering news. I am wondering if inbuilt professional mechanisms are not at work in your thought processes, Speedos. This fact, in your post, seems designed to create alarm, when in fact, it is not alarming. As I have already pointed out, Christians make up 35% plus of world population. It's not as if they are going to be "engulfed" by a Muslim hoard. I am also guessing that you haven't yet had time to look at the excellent documentary on the population explosion myth I posted a few pages back, but you should. When you do, you will see that "maximum child" was reached in 2000. Birth rates are falling everywhere - including in Muslim countries - as education and health prolong life expectancies. The "population explosion" - by which people imagine that the world is having more and more kids - has already happened and we are living in the after effects. So we can stop worrying about it. I have been asking myself whether a newsman, in general, would be better informed than the general population and I have come to two conclusions: If they are better informed, then the media is failing in its duty to pass on this information. This might be because of consumer pressures ("can't be bothered to read, would prefer to know stuff about Byoncé"), editorial pressures ("this is what our punters want to hear, so this is how we must write/present it") or perhaps time and format pressures - there just isn't the time to inform properly. The other possibility is that they aren't really better informed because they are also just reporting snippets of events as they happen and don't see the big picture. They don't have time for the big picture, as they are soon required to report on some totally unrelated subject. Journalists probably do their best work writing books - when they have the time to present all the facts in a few hundred pages. There is also the problem of "déformation professionnelle" as it is known in French (sorry, can't think of the normal English translation just now). For example, after 12 years in the drinks industry, I can't go into a bar anywhere without analysing which bottles are behind the bar, what the pouring brands are, etc. It's just habit. So for a journalist, after years in the media, maybe there is a desire to leap upon the easy narrative which is one possible interpretation of the facts (in as much as facts are known). I still think that there is more wisdom to be gained for Joe Bloggs in watching TED videos than in reading papers daily - or even their on-line equivalents.
This pretty much hits the nail on the head. You can say that you will have no truck with Muslims, but that just isn't practicable.
