Dvla Road Tax Cock Up

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Greyman, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. Apparently, there's been a bit of a cock up from our friends at the DVLA. New road tax reminders for bikes over 600cc have incurred a price increase of a whole £1, that is not on the reminder! Potentially, for those paying online this could cause a whole heap of trouble with the various relevant databases. Will you be covered???

    Vehicle tax rate tables - GOV.UK

    I'm not sure if at this time if it only covers the month of May reminders only and whether or not it applies to Motorcycles above 600cc only, the info a mate gave me was sketchy, only that they've cocked it up, again!

    Just a heads up really to check that you make sure you pay the correct amount to cover all legalities, and if you're in any doubt I'd suggest toddling off down to your local Post Office and doing it old style.
     
    #1 Greyman, Apr 29, 2015
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  2. There is nothing new about this. Tax and duty rates are often increased in the Budget, which is usually in March, and are sometimes increased with immediate effect or at very short notice. As a result various publications, leaflets, reminders, etc in the pipeline showing the old rates are superseded. It is the new tax and duty rates which apply from their effective dates, not the old rates shown in publications. This has happened many, many times before and will no doubt happen again in the future.

    I have no idea why you choose to describe this commonplace situation as a "cock-up", or why you think the DVLA is at fault in any way.
     
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  3. For those paying on-line, surely the website will ask for the correct amount ?
    It's not unusual for DVLA to make cock-ups, but I can't see how this will be a problem...
     
  4. In the interest of advocacy. So, DVLA send out reminders to pay your Road Duty but neglect to inform you that they've put the fee up.

    So you pay the fee as stated on the form and forget all about it.

    Then you ride down the road and someone ploughs into the side of you, and plod duly informs you that you're not on the insurance database because the DVLA says you've not paid the correct fee.

    Is that what you mean by "at fault" Pete?
     
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  5. You might actually read my post #2.
     
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  6. This is where your assumptions are wrong: you don't pay the fee on the form.

    If you do it online, you will pay the rate online, which will be the current rate.

    If you do it at a Post Office, you will pay the rate through their system, which will be the current rate.

    Exactly as Pete's post says above, you will always pay the correct rate at the time (and there are disclaimers on your reminder to tell you this!) regardless of what it says on your reminder.
     
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  7. MIB database has nothing to do with Vehicle Excise Duty ( a.k.a. Road tax).
     
    #7 AirCon, May 1, 2015
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  8. Indeed. Pre-printed reminders sent by DVLA at the time of year when there is a Budget pending, and thus the possibility of tax increases with immediate effect, include a prominent note warning of this. Their online systems are updated immediately. Actually as it happens DVLA are highly prompt, accurate and efficient at rapidly implementing changes which affect millions of transactions.

    It's hilarious that our friend Mr Greyman chooses to call this a "DVLA cock-up". Sometimes DVLA really do make a cock-up (e.g. renewing driving licenses whilst wrongly dropping off some categories of entitlement), but this is not one them.
     
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  9. I paid my tax for a year on my 998 yesterday and the way it read to me, and I could have misread it, but I was in a hurry was that it was £80 if you paid and set up a direct debit account or £81 if you paid by a debit card and £81 plus £2.50 if you paid by credit card. This applied to my bike only so something may be amiss.

    I paid for my car at the same time and it was the same price if you paid by direct debit or by debit card.
     
  10. It may well be that there are different prices for different means of payment, by way of incentive or penalty; this in itself is not uncommon when paying by credit card as it is a way of passing on this cost from the seller to the buyer rather than bundling the cost in the product.

    This means there could be: 1. cash price, 2. direct debit price, 3. debit card price, 4. credit card price.

    It also means that if the system is smart enough, it may only charge you one transaction fee for using a debit or credit card even though you've paid for two road fund licences; after all you don't want to pay two fees on a single transaction, do you?
     
  11. Actually, if you check the rates table in the link that Greyman posted above, it gives very explicit prices for road fund:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ile/419799/V149_Budget_2015_Final_version.pdf

    For a motorcycle, over 600cc:
    Six months non-direct debit is £44.55, 12 months is £81.
    Direct Debit 12-months as a single payment is £81.
    Direct Debit 6-months in installments is £42.53 in total.
    Direct Debit 12-months in installments is £85.05 in total.

    Remember that these rates came into effect on 1st April 2015 so it may be that your letter quoted the old 2014 rate which just happened to be... £80.
     
  12. In this case the website first quoted £80 as I mistakenly went for direct debit without reading the blurb clearly, when I realised I rolled back and that's when I was quoted £81 for debit card plus £2.50 for payment by credit card, I paid by credit card for my bike tax.

    When I paid for my car tax by debit card it then did not charge me the extra £1, so I have no idea what is going on.
     


  13. I think your still insured regardless of tax.your also insured without mot though he insurance payment on your bike will be reduced.
     
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