Paris Attacks

Yep, if it kicks off and I get my call up papers I shall be fighting alongside Russia rather than the Turks.

 

I'm sure if 'they' could cause the demise of Dr David Kelly, it wouldn't be too difficult to deal with other more major threats within the UK.

 

There are two main strands of opinion, those who favour arbitrarily killing people and those who prefer a process of arrests, trials, and punishments. The former include IS jihadis and @Mr C . I am among the latter.

 

I know I know.

 

We're just so lucky with our allies, aren't we?
i reckon you're right about Turkey. Trustable? Ha!
It's just ditto Pakistan who played a completely double game with the Taliban, so that they weren't really on our side, despite being a supposed ally.
You can't trust these people further than you can throw them.

 

What I think we should do, increasingly, is strip people of their UK citizenship who insist on espousing a radical faith that totally rejects the values of the country which was kind (and foolish) enough to offer them citizenship.
Once you have stripped them of citizenship, you can deport them as illegal aliens (eyes on stalks).
Back in the day, to get Swiss citizenship you had to prove your allegiance to Swiss values. Did you know how to make a fondue? What did your neighbours think of you? Could you speak the language? Did you know the history? It was a whole exam (and not an easy one). Now anyone can be Swiss, especially if they are good at football.

To make all sorts of sauces, you have to add the ingredients bit by bit and do a lot of stirring, otherwise you get lumps in it.
That is a bit what immigration looks like. Accept people, sure, but bit by bit and keep stirring them around the country, or will end up with ghettoes (lumps).
No one likes a lumpy sauce.

 

I think I have said this all along......

....they will tell you anything they think you want to hear; deny everything; then stab you in the back.

 

I can make a fondue...........I guess I must be Swiss.

And a kebab........

And a hotdog..........

.....so I must have triple nationality.

 

what if they were born here?

 

small potatoes in the grand scheme of things but now my mate is pissed off. his front disks for his goldwing are under security lock down in some warehouse in Belgium. thats daesh fecked then. big ian is gonna set about em!. :smileys:

 

It's a good point. At the moment, say your parents are Spanish and you are born in Switzerland and have lived your entire life in Switzerland, including being schooled here. You still aren't Swiss. You don't have the passport and you can't vote.
It seems a bit unfair, and there are steps afoot to change this (but it will still have to be voted on by the people).
But imagine these non-Swiss having their own kids in Switzerland - they wouldn't be Swiss either.

So say your parents were Kuwaitis (like Jihadi John's), but you were born in the UK (actually, not like Jihadi John). Should you get British citizenship automatically? I don't think so, personally.

 

I'd imagine the Swiss are in a very small minority of countries that apply that rule and yes, i do think people are entitled to citizenship in the country theyre born in, no matter what nationality their parents are. Why shouldn't they be?

 

But where to ?

 

their parents country of birth by the sounds of it

 

Just read that a Russian rescue chopper has been destroyed also..

 

This would be an easy test

Do you like this


Or this

 

Eh ??? Why SHOULD they be, surely ?? Nationality is nothing to do with where you were actually born. That's just geography. It's to do with parentage, culture, commitment, contribution, language, allegiance, loyalty etc. etc....

 

1 how are you going to get the country of their parents birth to take them?
2 suppose one or both of their paernts were born here?

 

Stick 'em in a crate and drop them out of a Chinook?

 

Are they very small people or is that a set of really large pigeon holes?