And you will be rid of David Cameron and George Osborne. After their gerrymandering there is no way they can survive an OUT vote. That's worth a few million votes in itself. (You might get Liam Fox instead but he is a Scot. And a fine upstanding one at that IMO). And you will recover full control of your fishing and agricultural industries. You know it makes sense.
will there be an exit poll? none for indi funnily enough. need a good majority voting to stay in up here with an out vote down your way to say its a significant change. although i see sturgion has put another commitment to another reff in their manifesto for the up coming elections.
Peter Mandelson was appointed as EU Commissioner for Trade in 2004 after standing down as MP for Hartlepool. Tell me who voted for him ?
61% currently voting to leave on our poll So the Scots (SNP) will vote to leave the EU so they can then have a referendum. They then leave the UK in order to stay in the EU - Simples! PS Good luck with the Spanish on that application to re-join the EU (oh no, they'll bend the rules as usual....)
point of order. snp isnt the only independence supporting party. but the possibility of a majority out vote but with the other three country's voting to stay in does pose a problem
Didn't Salmond say that the last referendum was a "once in a generation vote"? It's the SNP's main objective, whatever they say to the contrary. Sturgeon is using any excuse for another referendum. This time she's banging on about the Scottish being pulled out of the EU against their will. We are all in the UK and it will be voted on as such. How many no referendums does it take for the SNP to accept the will of the electorate? Until they get a vote to leave the UK, I suspect.
Or a country with a smaller population voting to stay in holding a country with a far larger population that voted to leave, in the EU
lets not talk about the snp as such. just the problems that may or may not arise from an in out result.
I don't think anybody is claiming it'll be without problems. It could be the best thing to happen to our country in the last 50 years though. We became one of the greatest countries on earth, punching well above our weight a long time before we were governed by the unelected Brussels Eurocrats.
deffo going to be winners and losers. more than slightly concerned for the loser's tho. got a sneaky feeling its gonna be the less needy thats pushing for this brexit.
Oh, Shaddup............ Just watch how Peter Mandelson walks and then compare it to Paul O'Grady........ Just thought I would mention it.........
I don't really get why a nation feels the need to be part of the EU. What is so wrong with governing your own country, looking after your own affairs. You won't get it right all the time, but why would anyone think that the EU would do a better job of it. The intentions of the EU are clear, just don't expect the mainstream media to report honestly. I reckon the UK were doing fairly well before the EU. Some of the greatest economy's are outside of the EU. No doubt the experts will say different, paid to help justify which ever side is paying. EU grant this EU grant that, EU money filtering back into the pockets that lined them, less a few quid. The EU is not a free club, its damn expensive to administer. Let's be realistic, do you really think anyone give a shite who makes what, its all down to cost. If the UK leaves the EU, why would other Countries not see this as an opportunity, a Country with its own law makers, business, flexibility and the ability to diversify., a Country not bogged down with regulations, that need member State agreements.
The precise make up of the EU institutions doesn't really bother me, what matters is the supremacy of the UK parliament and it's ability to have total control over what happens in the UK. We can have as many treaties and trade agreements as we like with the rest of the world but political and economic integration with the EU are steps too far. Unfortunately political and economic integration are both at the heart of the EU project and at the moment on the Ducati Forum 19 to 8 with 1 undecided seem to agree with me, hardly a random sample but interesting non the less. I am still waiting to hear of any benefits to being in the EU that outweigh being out of the EU.
Britain has demonstrated an inability to govern itself for the benefit of more than a tiny minority of its citizens for the past 45 years or so. The EU will do a better job of it. Good enough, John?
All this talk is driving sterling down against the Euro. It has lost nearly 10% since just before Christmas. That may make your Italian bikes and German cars more expensive in the UK, but it is affecting my pension that is fixed in Sterling and paid in Euros. Just wait till you all want to come and ride your bikes over here in the summer, it's going to cost you more too!
The EU has demonstrated an inability to govern itself for the benefit of more than a tiny minority of its citizens for the past 40 years. The UK will do a better job of it.
