Dash Cam Caught Me.

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Joe748, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. So I was on a rather spirited ride home the other day, clear, warm(ish), bike felt good and I wasn't hanging about.
    Long straight road coming off my favourite roundabout, no reason not to open it up and hop past all the cars I thought.
    Anyway, my mate tells me today his dad got overtaken by some nutter on a bike the other day and he's got it all on camera. Apparently it's me my mate says and the times match up.
    Two things come to mind. One is I want to see the video but the other thing is with the increasing number of these on the road do we have to treat everyone like a potential moving camera
     
  2. Not an expert but if he submitted to police and you were riding like a twat, you might expect a call / summons if it's an open and shut case I.e overtaking on wrong side of bollards, pulling a wheelie etc, speeding is difficult to prove obviously. Recent news events prove that you can get into trouble with footage from your own camera so I suppose it's a growing concern and one to be mindful of!
     
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  4. depends how shit his driving is and whether or not he's confident of handing over his footage to the police (as Nigel alluded to) but yeh loads of dash cams about these days, would certainly err on the side of caution if at all possible
     
  5. Do they not have to display somewhere on the vehicle that they are recording or using a camera, little badge like the Gatso badge. I am sure someone told me that the other day? Probably wrong tho!
     
  6. Like it has been said, they can do nothing about speed. If you can get away with an un-calibrated gatso, you can get away with a dash cam. When you get those people posting their stupid clips on youtube, it's dangerous driving or driving without due care that they get prosecuted for. Speed cannot be proven so that's what it comes down to and the dash cam footage will no doubt be treated the same way. Give it a few years and cars will be coming out with 'invisible', built in cameras as standard and then we'll all have to do our looning in private.
     
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  7. Only if you are invading privacy and a there is no “reasonable expectation of privacy” on public roads.

    There are some limitations on the use of cameras, however. If you are a taxi driver, for example, then it is important that passengers are informed that there is a camera in the vehicle if that camera records sound. A clearly displayed notice is sufficient to cover this issue. Alternatively, make sure that the only thing you record is video.
     
  8. ECUs are being mandated with ever increasing data collection capabilities. I wonder why that is ?
     

  9. ah, didnt think of that nice one :thumbsup:
     
  10. Cameras are becoming big business quite a few people I know have them
    More so for accidents or being driven into in car parks
    But chances are you will be caught on someone's camera out and about
    Watch you don't appear on YouTube or Facebook
     
  11. One person I know has a front and rear camera
    I noticed it when I was driving a bit close not realising it was them so I asked why they had it
    Mainly for accidents he said so there is no doubt on the cause and to catch people tailgating :Angelic:
     
  12. Only thing that can be illegal about them is their placement. Nothing is allowed to be in the drivers vision. That counts as anything that overlaps more than 1cm into the drivers wiper zone. Instant MOT failure and actually counts as dangerous driving if driving on the road. Also if the cam has an LCD that is on whilst driving, same goes. Illegal to use and actually illegal to sell.
     
  13. Admission time;

    I had an incident on the m25 a couple of years back where a lovely chap in a Volvo cut me up while on his phone and gave me the bird thereafter. Stupidly I reacted and ended up planting my boot in the side of his door little known to me that he had a dash cam as the car was part of an insurance investigation (not sure how the two were linked).

    Anyway the dash cam didn’t pick up his actions of course but a couple of days later I got a visit from PC plod who showed me the stills of me and my bike and the shots of the damage I caused.

    It cost me the best part of 3 grand to replace a side panel on his car in the end + court costs (thankfully no points or community service).

    All a bit embarrassing and something I will always be mindful of in the future and always warn others of.


    And yes I know I behaved like a massive tit cheers.:thumbsup:
     
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  14. We've all been there and it's now why I have a cam on the multi. Usually i'd find it enough to just give their mirror a quick slap to knock it out of position but I wouldn't even dream of doing that nowadays. They'll claim you caused every scratch on that car for the slightest thing.
     
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  15. It is not enough that big brother is watching us all the time, we are now watching each other.

    Where did I leave my spaceship.
     
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  16. I don't drive anywhere in the UK without one these days - in fact two, if I'm in my own car, one front and one rear - after having my car written off when a half-wit drove into the back of it. Call me paranoid, or call me cynical - I'm probably both - but I know how much easier it would have been to prove exactly what happened if I'd had the cameras when the accident happened.
    A good friend got shunted off his bike when a numptie car driver hit him from behind at lights. The footage from his camera completely changed the way the police were dealing with the case (they believed the car driver's, completely unture, version initially).
    So... Cameras can work both ways...
    Would I give footage from my camera to the police? Not unless it contained footage of an actual accident or of someone doing something ridiculously stupid - but, like in Red899's case in post #13, I'd make sure anything that might incriminate me had been edited off first...
     
  17. Likewise, it was an incident that made me install mine. Traffic lights on a hill, when they turned green the car in front rolled backwards at me. Car to the rear is always at fault right? How do I prove the car in front rolled back if they claim I drove up the back of them?

    A colleague of mine came round a blind bend to find another car reversing round the bend. My colleague stopped but the reversing car did not. The story the police got told was that my colleague came round the bend at a rapid pace, and simply crashed into the rear of the other car.

    It's far too easy to bullshit your way out of a claim and things like this are your only protection.
     
  18. Other than the speed element there was nothing anybody could reasonable object to about the overtakes. I just wondered if the speed being on camera could in theory lead to trouble. I'm not worried about thus specific incident getting me in trouble just made me think.
    As for uncalibrated camera etc would it need to be proved if it's just unarguably obvious that a hypothetical overtake was done at say over double the limit for that road.
     
  19. Your speed couldn't be proven, however your relative speed compared to the other vehicles and the conditions would form the basis of a dangerous driving prosecution.
     
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