low miles and looked after and low keepers is out there but the pool is very narrow... i may just bog the 748 idea and pony up an extra 10k and get a 996???
Ducati 748sps low milage! mint! (not 916 Foggy rep) | eBay probably worth watching that one and asking to see the service history and receipts. its not mint but looks ok. crap screen, shocking advert lol
ive been in touch with him its dodgy.. its got a kmh speedo and he had it up previously for 6995 and no bites..
chris cant you wind back your miles a bit and drop the price massively?? i know a man in a van he can be with you in 15 mins
i'll be honest, i think you are too worried about mileage. mine has 15k and a great history and is in mint condition and has been treated with mechanical sympathy to warm it up. you may well get one with sub 10k miles thats had someone who thrashes it from cold, and generic servicing, who didnt spend the money on new rockers when the chrome started to lift, or hasnt had it checked ;-) just saying like lol! the T70 was a beast, 500bhp and 900kg, no driver aids. much faster than the 748! i think you need to decide if you want a boring stock E or something more special and then just go see a few like i did. naively i spent a day with a guy selling an R that wouldnt start and had immobiliser issues, which then smoked on start up from cold, and was £5k 3 years ago!
All good points well made and by my own admission I have an irrational han up with miles and keepers but it's always put me in a very strong position come resale. Like you and the reval of the 993 has proven. I am now focused on an sps, later s or in dream world r! Part of the fun is the looking and great to have an open community to suport!
its a great bike to own i think, they have heritage, you get cheap classic insurance, they go ok for what they are and the handling is superb, they look and sound fantastic with termis, and people move out of their way to let you filter i often take photos of mine (sad i know) after a ride out and cleaning it as its just stunning
My SPS was a staggering £12250 new and some went for £12500, that was much dearer than a 748 Biposto at the time. They were after all a homolagation special and the price reflected that. Even the last 748E's were about £8500 if I remember correctly and that was three years later. The 748SPS was actually made up until 1998 but the last models actually sold went well into 1999, mine has parts on it from late 1998 so they took time to filter into the market and it must have taken someone with the right "want" at the time to spend so much on what ultimately was "just" a 748. The 748R was made and sold from 2000 to 2002, the early 2000 models often just had Showa forks and rear shocks, the 2001 (sold into 2002 as well) then came with rear Ohlins, if you want cheap and fairly good then this is the best model as it has Marchesini wheels, which the SPS never had. The 2002 full Ohlins was of course the best and also came with P4\34 brake calipers which made it probably the best 748 of the bunch and really is the only one that can match up to, in my opinion to a good and mint SPS. More were sold the the SPS though. As mentioned before this is my 748R engined 748S built for £3,500 because I had quite a lot of good spare parts laying about, it was basically a full rolling chassised track bike which originally had a 916 engine, hence the purchase of the 748R engine from a 2001 bike. The chassis did come with a V5 and a set of matching numbers 748 cases, so I did quite well. You could always try this route if you feel mechanically confident. I now have a bike that is on a par with a 748R for a lot less cost than a genuine stock 748R as the stock 748 injectors were set up by CJS and with that tuning it brought up the power that I had lost by not using the shower injectors of the 748R, which in themselves can cause problems if not set up correctly. I don't use the 748R slipper clutch preferring to use the stock steel item.
thats a good summary Red, and one of the reasons i think the SPS are undervalued when you look at their cost and the kit they have in comparison to a stock E type model. i bet the bike you built goes well. ive not even done a trackday on mine but i imagine they are fun on track, they are so flickable.
"thats a good summary Red, and one of the reasons i think the SPS are undervalued when you look at their cost and the kit they have in comparison to a stock E type model. i bet the bike you built goes well. ive not even done a trackday on mine but i imagine they are fun on track, they are so flickable." To answer both questions, yes, lots but I do have a passion for the 74-9** series bikes as they are iconic for me personally. The 748R engined bike is an absolute hoot and it is my bike of choice because it was cheap to build and it delivers on the road and track. When I was having it set up by Chris Steedman I met Rich at Louigi moto, they share premises, and he said to me it was one of the best bikes Ducati never made and it is, the best of both worlds. A fraction quicker than the SPS but a real thrill to ride. I also have a 998 but this bike is by far my favourite. However for sheer collectability it has to be the SPS, it is a true pleasure to own such a rare bike and know that only 20 were sold\imported in that final year, it makes its rarity so special and I have got one of the last ever made and sold. You cannot beat that., I love em both.
Why write and advert that actually hurts the readers eyes! :Watching: Did the SPS come with those forks? Not sure it did.
It's nowhere an original example and I wouldn't mind possibly betting this had had a front end crash, hence Ohlins forks. Non original or altered parts are the Termignoni's, originals didn't have stickers on them, black wheels, wrong forks, wrong discs, incorrect exhaust heat shield, coloured mirrors, they were black on the SPS. Carbon chainguard, incorrect seat unit with wrong sticker. The year isn't stated but the body panels and registration are for\from an early bike. The brake calipers look like the early ones and SPS's used later calipers especially on 98\99 models. The dashboard is incorrect as it has the later gauge on it for the speedo although the rev counter is correct. It has a centigrade temp. gauge when most UK models had Fahrenheit. It has two bolt bar clamps on the forks when this early bike should have had one, the rear indicators look like aftermarket ones and are not as rounded as the originals although it is a bit hard to tell. black dzus fasteners on the panels, white numberboard. Non original sprocket and carrier nuts. Aftermarket clutch slave cylinder, incorrect heel guards. it does have the correct clutch and brake levers but it is a far from genuine and original bike. Some mods are minor and it could be argued do improve the bike, but the telltale is the speedo and I suspect this cannot be the true mileage. I would not even consider this bike if I were in the market for a decent example. definitely a case for buyer beware consideration.
A bit of a mish mash basically. That's the problem getting a genuine SPS. A few visual changes can be expected with most bikes but you want a genuine one to start with lol! I've resisted the temptation to fit loads for carbon bling but mine came with the carbon hugger and black painted rims as the original gold finish was poor after a few years. Red is very good at spotting the obvious issues though
For me the speedo is the worst bit because there is no way of telling what the real mileage is unless it was legitimately changed for some reason in which case that should be noted and backed up with proof of the change and hopefully why as well. The later speedos were certainly on 2002 models so this bike could have gone a few years before the speedo was changed. I agree sensible and desirable changes are fine but as is rightly mentioned you want a good straight and genuine bike to start with.
