I don't want to get confrontational at all, but this is based on what exactly ?? After 30+ years of riding, and 30+ of being in engineering, my bikes always result in good performance comparing with mates, and never burn oil etc if run in correctly. I trust the engineers more who design these things than I do you who I have no knowledge of, so with respect, that sounds like utter horse shit !! ...... Shall I get my coat now ???[/QUOTE] sounds like you've got lucky so far... Thought it was common knowledge that a new engine needs a thrashin. It is where I drink. If I cant trust the blokes down the pub...:Banghead:
sounds like you've got lucky so far... Thought it was common knowledge that a new engine needs a thrashin. It is where I drink. If I cant trust the blokes down the pub...:Banghead:[/QUOTE] Oh, you should have said !! If I knew it was blokes from the pub, would have started. caning the arse off it from the word go
@Wayne58 I'm sorry but I don't know how to create a link, so, would you search for an online article about running/breaking an engine in by a chap calling himself MotoMan on Power news magazine, the article is called Break in secrets. If you have the time and inclination could you read it and pass on your opinion please. I'd appreciate your views as I haven't had time to run my bike in yet, and after reading this article I'm unsure of the best way, cheers.
Morning, I've read it before some time back. Surely your bike has 20 miles on it now ?? So you've missed your "window" anyhow ? From memory, I disagree with almost everything he says. Does he not just blab on about the rings constantly as if it's the only thing your running in ? Not the valve train, crank, main bearings, small end bearings, gearbox etc etc. I could go on and on and on about this, but will cut it short. Similar and dissimilar metallurgy friction + Metal under a microscope + Lateral ring force against vertical pressure etc etc. I'm not prepared to listen to some bloke who creates his own site (Just like you or I could) then preach to the world how to rag a bike from the off, when from the off, he clearly has no understanding of lateral ring force needed to maintain vertical pressure, which is just one tiny example of the (IMO) shit he is pushing. I believe Ducati, KTM, Honda etc etc employ engineers who know better than him. Also, not saying this happens, but if your bike has a catastrophic failure 3000 miles in, would it not be beyond the realms of possibility for Ducati to plug in a lap top, tell you how you ragged it from day one and invalidate your warranty due to incorrect break in ? On that, I aint sure, but I do believe the R&D department know more than Motoman off a site he created to big himself up !! Anyhoo, its up to you, I'll do it my way based on my own experience's so far + 30 years understanding engineering + and the evidence of my bikes (Including some very positive post break in dyno runs) Best of luck
Thanks Wayne, I appreciate your engineering background views, that's why I asked. I shall run it in as per Ducati's instructions. p.s. No there isn't 20 miles on the bike yet (genuine)
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you believe to be the best for the bike, it's what the manufacturer tells you to do that matters - for the sake of your warranty. Plenty of bikes have a data-logger in them now, so they potentially know if you've abused your bike ahead of time or not.
I agree with running an engine in sympathetically and in accordance with manufacturer's recommendation. In my opinion the worst sin is to let an engine lug at too low revs. Don't do long motorway trips, alternate the load/speeds, etc. lots of heating/cooling cycles. I am not too religious about rev limits as I feel you can sense what is right and it varies with gear/speed/load. My bike at 24k has never needed oil between services and I even treat my company cars the same way as I believe it's a good investment. My last one was changed at 105k and again didn't need oil between services (and that was a 20K interval).
Ah well, now I know that based on nothing more than your own opinion, I'm gonna thrash it to death from day dot, you should have said before !!!
