Red Bull Soap Box Race

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by chizel, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. coming to London..
    Ducati forum entry?
    plenty of Engineering types on here and id imagine a few wanna be pilots!
    916 styles?
     
  2. Do it yellow, it will win :upyeah:
     
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  3. (or black n white)
     
  4. Yeh, both would work - not Red though :Wideyed:
     
  5. meh... Red... Not really a duke color is it?
     
  6. No, just marketing copying Ferrari - loads got suckered in though :Wideyed:
     
  7. you could oversee the design elements.. Like you do at work.
    as in, leave it for someone else to do and poo poo stuff.. If ya not to busy that is...
     
  8. OK :upyeah: I'll poo poo it between poo pooing stuff at work :)
     
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  9. Will you be building a prototype? Don't tell exige, it'll go missing....
     
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  10. :Shifty:

    :Writing: it might...
     
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  11. that's the spirit!
     
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  12. I can drive. Its down hill so the extra nose weight may help :upyeah:
     
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  13. I'm up for it either as part of a Ducati Forum team or (failing that getting off the ground) as a means of getting my sons away from PS4 and doing proper stuff in a man cave.
    I need another project as much as I need a hole in the head.
    The 2017 event is at Alexandra Palace so there is a respectable slope to fall down (with quite a bendy approach road if I recall). I have an old kart chassis that has been cluttering my garage for 20 years that I could donate (less a back axle and the self aligning bearings that went to make a GX160 powered starter for my mate's Manx Norton). I think we would need larger narrower wheels as looking at Red Bull web site in previous years there were obstacles/jumps to negotiate. Only 66 days left to enter????
    I am thinking trike, extending the kart wheelbase with 2 x wheelbarrow front wheels pumped up really hard, either prone facing forward driving position or FI style on back with a old /damaged 916 front nose cone fairing.
     
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  14. I've done my first bit of pondering and here's my guidance so far...
    There was a local one in York this year - places were filled on the day the event first advertised. If it's first come first served you may be too late. If not and teams are picked from all entries then a Ducati Forum team would stand a chance. If drawn then you will be very lucky to get in. :)

    Tyre pressures would be dependant on the course: speed Vs grip requirements (and the weight of Bradders on the day, this can be tuned with cake/pies or poo's).

    Worth checking previous winners - don't 4 wheels usually win? Wheel size / width and seating layout can be determined largely from previous winners :) Suspension / camber and wheel alignment are critical too. A lot you see have stability issues.

    Do Bradder's types usually win or do we need a little jockey, maybe someone more Weeble like (Chizel)?
     
  15. As it's downhill would it not be beneficial to stick a bloater in the soap box?
     
  16. A lot of the stability issues are from poorly designed steering, play.

    > If you could use a the steering from a Kart? (doubt this would legal would help).

    You won't have major issues with grip.

    I'd be slightly concerned about side load on skinny push bike wheels, if the thing grips like mad and you've got large spokes, they may buckle. Push bikes lean, the forces are different...Depending on the weight if you don't break traction.

    You won't want to run much toe in at all, and not too much neg camber either...

    Advikaz would also be a good bet. Ex Kart Racer and Ards instructor.... there's more to driving 4 wheels than people think. This will be all about keeping the momentum up, not using the steering, every input and correction causes drag.
    It's taught to kart racers at a very young age...
     
  17. Thank you for the nice words

    I am pretty heavy and tall these days, but happy to help
     
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  19. My type wins or ends up in bits in a bush and some great TV :upyeah:
     
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  20. Well these look the part...

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