My GS1200 vibrates no more or less than my Mutley 1200 ST. Miss the brakes & top end of the Mut. Don't miss the servicing costs & constant visits to dealer regarding issues. My GS isn't without its problems(global front fork recall) being the latest but I've been treated better by BMW UK than I did by Ducati UK.
Just dipped my toe in bmw ownership,got rid of the scrambler desert sled after 4 months ownership,swapped to a r9t scrambler,great engine,good fun and very easy to ride with bags of character,good turn of speed and looks pretty cool.I can see why the gs is so popular but i will stick with my multi for now as i cannot afford the Rukka gear to go with the gs.
Seen quite a few cool AC Schnitzer modded ones of the R Nine T, I reckon if I was going to go that sort of bike I'd get the bmw.
Not planning on to many bolt on bits,bar end mirrors and small screen,bmw accessories are on par with Ducati prices ,i have changed the tyres to road focused ones.The r9t pure model offers good value at under 10k.
There are some lovely looking ones about and they fill a niche in the market,much more complete bike than the Ducati offerings.
Yup. At the risk of repeating Bradder's comment, "it's a Harley". I suspect that you're failing to grasp the level of anti-Harley sentiment amongst folk who just don't own a Harley, very probably for completely irrational and possibly entirely emotive reasons. I would give up biking altogether before buying a Harley or owning anything that had even the merest whiff of Harleyness about it. A non-Japanese big v-twin with a belt drive is just the thin end of the wedge. Buy into that and the next thing it's a cruiser, possibly a Diavel, but the end of that road lies a Harley. When I think about it it's probably bicurious head-scarf, goatee, leather waistcoat and chaps wearing twats that ride them, and the risk of being associated with them that puts me off rather than the bike itself, although the bikes are royally shite too. Total form over function, and the form isn't too clever either.
I'm in a similar position, although my DVT will be 2 years old in about 4 months time (Jan 2018). I already have something else in the garage in the way of an MT-10SP and my DVT is my designated commuting and touring machine. If there is a new Multi coming in time for my change then I'll stick with the Multi and just get a new one because it's the most complete bike I've ever owned and common sense just says get another. However, if there is a new model on the horizon but it won't be in time for when I need to change (I wouldn't dare own a Ducati out of warranty unless it was a classic of some description) then I'm not going to invest in the same knowing that eventually it's not the current model and will then most likely take a slight kicking on it's residual value. In which case, I'll be going along to the BMW dealer.
Can I just clarify something here folks.....I fecking hate/despise/loathe/detest/abhor/repudiate and abominate Harley's but, and its a big, rounded full bodied Kardashian stylee Butt, if a belt on a multi could perform the same as a chain, only need changing every 100k miles, and is reliable, quiet etc, then I'm sorry, but I fail to see the drawbacks ? No more chain lube, no more adjusting/tensioning, and in recent events of my life, if it snapped, no more threatening to take my entire lower leg off !! I'm all for shitting on the shaft drive, hate Harleys and I love chain drive, but if the Ducati developed belt became viable and performed well ? Then again I say, whats not to like ?? PS, since 2015, I have ridden three S1000XR's as I have considered one myself, but they vibrate way too much, got from Bahnstormers to Loomies, and actually had to stop on one of them, cause my left hand went numb !!!
I quite like some Harley's, saw a really nice cafe racer on eBay this week that was tempting https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282583214462
What the fecking feckety feck !!! After all my belt drive grief, and "its a Harley" quotes, turns out you're a ten gallon hat wearing, redneck hog loving yanky doodle dandy ?? WTF Bet you like line dancing too you weirdo !!
Why ? I never have understood this logic and fear of Duke ownership out of warranty ? Folk would rather spend an extra massive wodge of cash trading in for a new bike than possibly spend a few quid on niff naff parts that go wrong ??
Apologies Wayne58. Now see he mentioned the 1000XR not GS. I shall promptly wash my eyes out with Jif (post Brexit Cif).
Sorry mate, but I've been bitten once and swore I'd never do it again. Admittedly it was a long time ago when my 916SP blew a coil, limped home on 1 cylinder before finally destroying the remaining coil. It was just inside warranty and so I didn't have to fork out for the new coils .... or the replacement wiring loom which had short in it which caused the issue which also took out a bunch of other stuff. Don't get me wrong, I love my Multistrada and it's been (touch wood) very reliable for the nearly 15K miles it's got on it, and I might yet just get another, but it's gonna have a new bike warranty or it simply won't happen. Also, I'm leasing my DVT, so I've only been paying the depreciation and therefore there isn't much incentive to keep hold of it as I won't own much of the asset. Overall I won't be any worse of if I keep it or change it so might as well change it.
Having a Duke out of warranty is no big deal. I guess if you get bitten then its not great, but I have had as many issues with Hondas as I have with my Dukes. And having changed 2 clutches now in my mates GS for him, I have seen more of the inside of his bike than any of mine I did a trip for 2 weeks in South Africa last year, 70% off road, all of us riding 2017 GS's. The bike was surprisingly good, I really enjoyed it. It was imo the best compromise for what we wanted to do. we were unfortunate enough to experience some of the GS fork failures that now see the worldwide recall. One guy with us had his fork leg totally seperate chucking him and the bike up the road at 50mph. 2 others of us had partial seperation that put the bikes out of action (unsafe to risk riding). There were a bunch of other issues too such as bent wheel rims on spoked wheels, dents in header pipes, etc. Given the right tyres I would have loved to have ridden an MTS over the route we did (or even an BMW XR). Trouble is, they just dont get offered for hire like the GS does. A mate has a new GS and having ridden with him can vouch that performance wise the new one is almost as rapid as the MTS (him solo, me 2 up) up to 130+. The trouble is I just dont like the look of it, and dont find it very exciting to ride. The XR is a cracking bike but does still suffer from vibes, and is not averse to a bit of corrosion too. The shortlist for me for a new bike only consists of the new MTS when it arrives, maybe a KTM, and possibly an XR if they do some revisions. Trouble is the wife has given me instructions not to buy anything but another MTS because it is more comfortable than the others as a pillion. As Wayne says, if it had a belt drive I wouldnt mind, just as long as it didnt affect performance or not last as long as a chain does.
