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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Seriously? Look at the Scottish deficit, the performance of Hospitals and Schools.

    You may then judge her and the SNP less favourably.
     
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  2. Not as long as he has these on


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  3. John Lennons glasses?
     
  4. You would normally say rose tinted glasses as an analogy for only seeing what you want to see, the snp's colour is yellow, ergo yellow tinted glasses
     
  5. Worth a good read
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  6. Theresa May is not happy, Micheal Gove has publicly backed her, that means he’ll be voting against her tonight.
     
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  7. oh goat. please dont do this to your self.
    GERS was first published in 1992 by the Scottish Office under the Conservative Party government of Prime Minister John Major, at a time when the government was resisting calls for Scottish devolution. Its overall purpose was to estimate the overall UK borrowing requirement for Scotland - it was created at this time because Scottish Office ministers thought due to then-low oil prices, the report would show Scotland gained far more from the UK Treasury than it received.[4] In a leaked memo the then Secretary of State for Scotland Ian Lang wrote "I judge that [GERS] is just what is needed at present in our campaign to maintain the initiative and undermine the other parties. This initiative could score against all of them.”[5]

    The methodology of this first report was questioned - economics professor Hervey Gibson recalled "My reaction, both emotional and professional, was that where Scotland was making disproportionate drawings on the National (UK) exchequer these had usually been carefully estimated and emphasised, and where it was making net or disproportionate contributions to the exchequer these had been assumed away or hidden under crude assumptions about ‘reflecting national averages’"[6]
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    25 out of the 26 figures used are estimates.
    on top our population share of uk debt which is added to the GERS figures and the so called deficit.
    all sorts get added to our figures. the cost of running the uk civil service, approxamatly 5bill is lost there through tax multiplyers alone. national infrostructure projects, ie cross rail and HS2 we pay a poplution share of those and many others. trident, wars ect.
    god, where do you guys get yer info from?. suckers.
    for the to wee too poor brigade
    from 6mins
     
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  8. See what you started Kirky, 58 pages of "everyone see's this every other week the snp are GODS I tell ya GODS" copy and pasted nonsense from the less than honourable member from Oban/via Cornwall

    Just nod a lot , put him on ignore for about an hour and utopia arrives :D

    as an add on, all his journey to yes video's, ignore the fact the largest independance vote by Scots on their own independence, said NO...shhh don't tell him, he gets sulky when you do
     
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  9. Nicked off Facebook. upload_2018-12-12_18-48-33.jpeg
     
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  10. yip, they did. but that was then, this is now. brought on by brexit.
    one thing they never mention when people bring up the scottish defficit, if we cant borrow, and they wont even subsidize a spare room let alone a country, how can we have a defficit of 13%?. lil odd no? the same people that have convinced some of you that the eu is bad but the uk parliment is good, produce those figures.
    hmm :thinkingface:
     
  11. Yes exactly. As opposed to a preferential system where the voter numbers candidates, in order of preference, and the count progresses eliminating the weaker candidates and distributing their preferences until one candidate has 50% + 1 of the vote.
     
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  12. here you go allan. this gives you a run down on first pat the post and some of the PR systems used. focused more for a scottish audiance. but you will get the drift
     
  13. Agreed.

    Can’t see our system changing though.

    Bet they wish they had for the referendum though. ( wouldn’t that have been different ?)
     
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  14. yip kirky, you have been had, *shrugs*.
     
  15. Wasn't me :innocent:
     
  16. i know, it was yersel.
     
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  17. There is a theory that as the current old folks die off the Tory vote will similarly decrease. This -if true- will require them to do something to retain seats. A change to proportional representation, would help their situation in such a scenario.
     
  18. Thank you Finm.

    I’m slow on the uptake, so might have to watch it again.

    I think there a definitely better systems, but can’t see ours changing.
    (Unless it suited the Tories, if I’m getting it right the Tories would rarely win under something like the proportional representation system )
     
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