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Panigale 1199 Dash/display?

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Nelson, Dec 15, 2018.

  1. Is it dumb?
    ie not coded to the bike's key or ecu/bbu?
    @nelly @chrisw

    cheers
     
  2. Dumb... not really. It's a network node that communicates with other nodes, such as the ECU and BBS, across the CAN bus. It is not "coded" to the vehicles ECU, although different software versions may result in network nodes failing to communicate with one another. In this case, the dash pad might indicate an "UNKNOWN DEVICE" error message accompanied by an EOBD indication. The vehicle's key and ignition switch go hand in hand, but will work with any ECU.
     
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  3. From what I have read it uses the 24C512 chip - so will be coded to the keys.
     
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  4. The ECU can be swapped in or out at will with no regard to the keys. The Ducati lock kit (59821431A) includes the ignition switch, the gas tank cap, and two keys.
     
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  5. That's interesting/very useful to know. So, the ignition barrel is the clever bit that is coded to the key?
    No coding to ecu or dash display like previous models?
     
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  6. Dont quote me as its just my thoughts and I've not proved it but the only things I'm aware of that are linked together are the BBS and ECU. If you replace the BBS you need a dealer to make it work. Everything else on the CAN bus; GPS, Dash, Wheel speed sensors(?), etc can be swapped out.
     
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  7. I believe a pin code is also entered by the new owner.
     
  8. Wonder how the BSD push button system works then? :bucktooth:
     
  9. From the owner's manual:

    Housed in the handgrip of each ignition key is an electronic device that modulates an output signal. When the ignition is turned on this signal is
    generated by a special antenna incorporated in the switch and changes every time. The modulated signal represents the “password” (which is changed at each start-up) by which the ECU recognizes the ignition key. The ECU will only allow the engine to start if it recognizes this password.

    Information from BSD indicates the system uses a control module and your existing key. The module and key can be relocated and the OEM ignition switch removed. The push button can then be used to start and stop the vehicle. .
     
  10. Similar to what I did on one of my old 1098 builds. Bypassed the ignition switch and strapped the ignition key to the antenna ring.
     

  11. This might suggest the ecu is coded to the key? But, I think you're saying as long as there's a recognised password/handshake then we're good to go!

    Good stuff!
     
  12. The ignition switch and the key are linked to one another. Data from the ignition switch is sent to the ECU via the CAN bus and then validated.
     
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