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Driving Ban, Holding Mobile Phone

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by J biker, May 9, 2019.

  1. "Only slow moving traffic"...... so that's OK then? No chance of people crossing the road or motorcycles making progress between the slow moving traffic... still plenty of hazards.
    At best your argument that no or low risk to life would ONLY exist when the hand brake was applied and engine off.
     
  2. He got banned because he already had 6 points not because he was using the phone, the 6 more for the phone use gave him the 12 which equalled the ban. However, the very fact he had the phone in his lap and thus below the window level implies he knew what he was doing was illegal and was trying not to be seen, hoping to get away with it. The fact a member of the public ratted on him is the price one pays for being famous I suppose.

    As for the principle of using mobile phones being illegal I've never understood why it stopped at just that when the law was introduced. What about SatNavs? looking at that screen and trying to type in addresses whilst on the move is surely as equally dangerous? What about women applying lipstick/makeup whilst looking in the mirror? You'll see it all the time in rush hour traffic in the cities, and not just stationary traffic. Lighting a cigarette? Changing the radio station? All these things, and more, divert from paying attention to what's happening outside the vehicle, but where do you draw the line?

    Do I think it's right? No.

    Have I done it? Yes:(. (But only a private road).

    I side with @Loz comments above about the 'arm waving' conversations as I know that I've had handsfree conversations in the past where, in hindsight, my focus has been more on the conversation than the road, but then what about conversations with fellow passengers?
     
  3. This wins.

    People on glass houses...dashcam footage...neighbours snooping...
     
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  4. Risk to life. Fucking hilarious. Driving any car is a risk to life.

    Last time I looked, people are capable of doing ore than one thing. And traffic is moving slow, so why would a pedestrian walk in front?! Central London, possibly, but regular traffic?!

    Remember I warned you when you buy that nice big house in the country, decide to trim a tree and get a knock on the door from the council as someone has reported you for cutting a preserved tree. Or, god forbid, get a knock for dangerous driving and/or without due care and attention for an overtake in a national speed limit where you pulling in while filtering a cue of mid-speed moving traffic and nip a white line or 'too close' for the drivers comfort

    Using the phone is illegal. Thats not the issue here.

    Let the police do their job, not busybodies. Its hardly someone dealing drugs or murder.

    Thats the issue.:confused:
     
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  5. Fair point. I agree with brad. Busybody snitchers, may as well have the daily mail readership with clippies taking notes on the side of the road.

    Same busybodies will complain the Police arent doing their jobs. Same will also encourage the austerity and cuts that have got us here. Pay some fucking taxes and get better services you cunts. Its not cunting rocket science. Have I said cunt enough?
     
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  6. yeah, I think you got your cunts just right, it was like reading shakespeare, good job!
     
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  7. I think it was more some one saw him do it, posted it on their social media and it was picked up by conventional media who have a dislike of him anyway

    On the cops side of things, we don't have many, even less so since the social media age where they are sent on wild goose chases based on internet arguments.

    In the states, doesn't the use of mobiles vary state by state? When I lived in South Dakota, they have no texting whilst driving by anyone throughout the state and no using the mobile at all by under 18's whilst driving. They also have a law against distraction driving for doing such things as eating, drinking, putting on make up etc whilst driving.
     
  8. Yes, but what do the LibDems have to do with this?
     
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  9. You know what, after the previous speeding fiasco and all the adverse publicity he received I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t set up in an attempt to redeem his image by his agent.
    He lives in LA most of the time now so the disqualification means little to him as does the financial penalty.
     
  10. He got caught, its irrelevant whether its by a police officer or a member of the public.

    To those who think that individual was a busy body, what if your house was broken into and your neighbours just watched the burglars do it and didn't bother to phone the police. Is that ok too? Or a member of your family was attached in the street and everyone just watched and let the culprit run away?
     
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  11. Quit being reasonable and posting logical comments Dukey. That isnt what these threads are for. Theyre for inane rantings. If we wanted rational debate, we wouldnt be on a ducati forum. Only reactionary knee jerking is allowed on here.
     
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  12. The accused has spent most of his life hanging around with boys and men in short trousers playing with balls - deserves all he gets really :thinkingface:
     
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  13. He can afford to employ a team of chauffeurs to drive him wherever he wants, and personal assistants to answer his phone for him. So no need for him to do either of those things, let alone doing both at the same time.
     
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  14. Lefties telling everyone how to spend their time and money.

    Never gets old.
     
  15. Personally I never answer the phone when driving as my dashcam footage shows the quality of my driving drops dramatically.
    I've also stopped listening to music in the van / car as I find it a distraction.... headbanging means I cannot see out the windscreen.
     
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  17. Have to agree, I tried re-enacting the Wayne's World scene of headbanging to Bohemian Rhapsody whilst going round a relatively tight corner at relatively quick speed - I came close to blacking out :eek:
     
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  18. Even with hands free, phones are a distraction. You have to be fairly stupid these days though to not take advantage of the hands free facility in virtually all modern cars, IF you are going to take/make a call. I leave it to your judgement, IMO some places are just too busy and some people are easily distracted..
    Texting, just the height of stupidity. Had near misses before when oncoming drivers have clearly been texting. Nearly got wiped out last year in Italy by an idiot texting and swerving towards me when he was looking at his phone. I know of one fatality less than one mile from where I lived due to a van driver thinking he was above the law.
    Would suggest that smoking when driving should be an offence. Seen plenty 'hot' ash' moments when sharing vehicles with smokers .
     
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  19. I was in a car sat at a red light on a long straight-road, shortly before a pedestrian crossing, and got rear-ended at 30+ by an idiot on his phone. In immediate aftermath, I asked him if he was on phone, his reply was "no, I was only checking it" :mad: He wisened up before I could get him to repeat it in front of the witness. I rang 101 as it wasn't an actual emergency, and police weren't interested in attending, so guy got off scot free (his car was also written off).

    Car was written off. If I'd been on my bike (or push bike), I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be here now. If my car wasn't there, and there had been a pedestrian on crossing, neither would they.

    Absolutely no excuses for not seeing a white car on a long straight road in a residential area, and hitting it without braking.

    6 months ban for using phone sounds about right to me, maybe lenient.

    Roads are getting so bad with people on phone, and drugged up, it feels more risky than ever to be a biker.
     
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  20. I get yer. So a victimless crime of putting a personal envelope in a public bin (which people have been prosecuted for btw) is the same to you as a burglary or a murder.
     
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