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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. yes, i made an observation on how the elected had viewed a close result and had used it to build a Frankenstein proposal.

    actually i think that is probably very likely to happen. It might have to get worse before it gets better. My passport is ready, i think i'll watch from a distance.
     
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  2. It was a toss-up between a "Like" and a "Funny", for the record.
     
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  3. Not what you want you mean, why? What's your personal gripe with leaving? You are dodging the question :thinkingface:
     
  4. still banging away i see.
    you know, the way i see it, it's the remainers that are attempting to defend democracy in the UK. as much as 62% in just one "region" alone.
     
  5. Yes he his, but he's hiding something...……… :eyes:
     
  6. How does the 62% defend democracy when on the last two independence votes, the 62% (the snp)you mention has willingly taken part in those democratic votes, and refused to accept the results of both of those TWO votes.

    Yeah we want the people to have a vote, damn, not that result! You might get away with it once but to do it twice , you start to show your democracy only extends to when you win instead of the agreed democratic system? Pray tell preacher :D
     
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  7. But what about the oppressed in Haringey: they voted 75.6% in favour of Remain. Shouldn’t we all do what they want in support of them and their democratic rights?
     
  8. Forget Haringey ... what about Pagham? Don't they have voices?
     
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  9. Yes, but they are busy talking about Jack in the Green, and fighting the new houses wanted at Hook Lane.
     
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  10. and how their contribution of 200bil a year to the economy and 60bill tax contribution (excluding the big one, about 10% of the uk economy) a year is spent
     
  11. Yes, Pagham’s very big in future derivatives and striped rock, as @Loz is well aware.
     
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  12. yip. totally aware. its often the case in the uk that the ones that are aware are the ones paid to argue against what they know.
     
  13. Are you saying fin that certian parts of the U.K. can refuse to accept democratic votes in the U.K. if they believe themselves not to be part of the U.K. or are you saying ho much you contributes means you have bought only answers you want when it comes to democracy?
     
  14. i think i have a different definition of democracy to you.
    for me, the result should only be respected if promises to secure a result are, deliverable, honored and lawful also. i guess that's why we have GE's every five years.
     
  15. No one wants new houses at Hook Lane. There was a referendum ...
     
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  16. Hows that promise of indi 2 working out for ya?
     
  17. its all in motion. noob.
    by yours and every brexiteer and then some admission, uk politics are a mess. its traditional partys are broken and their leaders incompetent. at best.
    are you suggesting that we should support what you and yours wont?
     
  18. I'm stating the obvious fin

    U.K. mp's didn't listen to the electorates democratic majority vote to leave, so they got a kick in at the local elections, they still didn't listen and are now likely to get a massive kick in in the eu elections

    The snp insisted the people of Scotlands voices be listened to and have indi 1, they voted to stay in the U.k. The snp didn't listen. The snp tried raising indi 2 at the 2017 general election so the Scottish people fed up of the snp not listening, gave the snp a good kickin by removing a third of the snp mp's from parliament

    At what point do you think the snp politicians are listening and the U.K. politicians are not?
     
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  19. there you go again, not understanding the definition of a respected democracy again.
    using the UK's FPTP system in 2017 a majority of seats (60%) where won. not running on their core message. they didnt lose votes to other partys. they just didnt turn out for the vote. low turn outs are common place here. hold a GE now, i dares yah.
    in 2016 they where elected in a PR election to govern, with the biggest first preference vote in the history of the Parliament on a manifesto. the people elected them. with the Greens they are seeking to deliver on the terms they where elected on.
    that's how it works.
     
  20. Okay Diane, let's look at your maths

    2015 general election the snp had 56 mp's, tried to raise indi 2 in the general election 2017 and the scottish people removed snp politicians so they now have 35

    So remind me how losing a third of the snp mp's from parliament in 2017, and those spaces were filled by other parties candidates who were voted for, is they didnt lose votes to other partys. they just didnt turn out for the vote. low turn outs are common place here

    Aw man, you're on fire this morning :joy:
     
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