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1260 Quickshift Has Stopped Working

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by Rainman, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. Hi All,

    Anyone else with a new 1260 experiencing issues with the quickshift? Over the weekend I was out for a 130 mile blast with my mates and part way through it just flatly refused to do upshifts unless I closed the throttle myself. Downshifts work perfectly. The QS option is definitely turned on and it does it in all modes.

    I suspect that it's a faulty load-cell only working in one direction. I spoke with my dealer and they've asked me to bring it in so they can run some diagnostics but they can't see me until next weekend, and if it turns out to be a load-cell then I'll have to wait for that to come in and then book in for it to be changed, all-in-all will be a total returned trip of 120 miles of back-and-forth.
     
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  2. Rainman any news on your qs issue?
     
  3. I didn't get up to my dealer on Saturday as it pissed with rain all day and just couldn't bring myself to go out in it, since I turn out in all weathers all week anyway.

    Oddly enough it started working today on my commute into work this morning. Only thing that has happened between now and when it wasn't working was that I installed a DUC-EE on Friday. Saying that, I did hit a false neutral on a heavy throttle shift between 4th and 5th gear, so I suspect it still needs recalibration in any event.

    I'm going to see if I can reschedule a quick visit to my dealer one afternoon this week.
     
  4. Check the bolt that connects the lever to the shaft. If it’s loose it will create a problem.
     
  5. That was one of the first things I checked when it stopped working and it's absolutely solid.

    Yesterday the QSS started working again, today it's not. Bloody annoying.
     
  6. Stories like this are why I don't have a Multistrada.
     
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  7. So took it back to the dealer for some diagnostic, however as I rolled into the car park the damned thing started working again. I was thinking "bloody typical, it works so everyone is going to think I'm wasting their time and this is going to drag like a dog with worms."

    The mechanic took it out and initially found it to be working, however it stopped working whilst he was out on the bike ... phew! Apparently the diagnostic tools they have don't give them the same data on the 1260 quickshifter as it does on a Panigale, so their unable to pinpoint the exact nature of the failure however he did agree with my own initial diagnosis of it having a load-cell with an intermittent fault. Variations in the signal from the load cell on upshifts either lead to no-shift or a phantom shift - where after you've tried to shift up and it didn't happen, it actually cuts the throttle a few moments after the lever has returned to it's nominal position. The phantom shifts are quite alarming because you're on the throttle and you're bracing yourself against the acceleration and then without warning the throttle shuts completely, then it comes back in again. Bloody scary and if you're not expecting it (and you're not expecting it) then it's downright dangerous.

    Anyway, they're ordering a new QS/load-cell, so just waiting on the nod to go back and get it fitted.
     
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  8. This may sound like a stupid question, but is the "QS/load-cell" the little electrical device on the shift linkage ??
     
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  9. Yes it is. It's a push/pull load cell and provides a signal as a result of a pressure load applied in either direction.
     
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  10. It does sound like a load cell issue, I agree

    But im not 100% sure what the tyre calibration set up does through the dash menu?

    The bike doesn't have tyre pressure monitor as standard, so what is the calibration for? Dealer gave me a vague answer to do with rolling raduis and gear ratio's..?

    Could it be linked to QS operation..??
     
  11. I had exactly the same thing happen to my 1299 and had to have a new QS fitted, easy to do by yourself to save on shop costs.
     
  12. I have a hunch that it might be, simply because why else would you need to calibrate for rolling radius and the impact it has on the final drive ratio. I don't think it is an issue for upshifts, as you're only cutting the throttle to allow the natural slowing down of the engine to match the road speed for the gear to slot in. You do this yourself if you do clutchless upshifts without a quickshifter, just by quickly closing the throttle manually. Upshifts don't require timing to be particularly critical.

    On the other hand, timing of the blip for a downshift is critical, both for the timing of the blip itself, how much of a blip and how long it is required. There are a number of variables that need to be fed into the blip to make it work for any speed and any engine revs and going between different gear ratios. I can see that the calibration might be required for that and I also find it hard to conceive how you could achieve a smooth clutchless downshift with accurate road-speed data.
     
  13. Yes, it looks totally plug and play, but I'm not worried about costs as the bike is literally only two months old and I haven't done 2000 miles yet. For me the ball-ache is running backwards and forwards to the dealer, particularly when you know what the issue is but they insist on some diagnostic to confirm what you already know before they'll order the part, then and you have to wait for it to turn up before booking in again to have it fitted.

    If there was an after-market option I would have bought it already and fitted it, just to save me a wasted journey.
     
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  14. I wonder how many are experiencing this and will it be the 1260's first recall? Given the state of our roads combined with that situation, it would not make me at ease with the bike. Hopefully it was a one off and normal service can be resumed quite soon. :upyeah:
     
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  15. I think I have had the same thing on mine. When accelerating, suddenly no power for a second or so, then the power comes back on again. It feels a bit like traction control cutting in, in a big way, but it clearly isn't that.

    I have also on a few occasions experienced what I can only describe as a second blip. I downshift with auto blipper, it blips as normal and goes down a gear, then it seems to rev (a bit more than a blip) again, then its fine. This has happened a couple of times, and is more disconcerting as the bike surges for a second on that second blip! My 600 mile service is booked for a weeks time, hopefully they can sort it out!

    I took a long time making the decision to buy my first Ducati due to the negativity about reliability. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I understand though that new models of most bikes often have niggles. I still love the bike though, its completely addictive! :)
     
  16. Resurrecting this year old thread. Rain did this get sorted?
    Mine has also failed, tech disabled and re-enabled with the diagnostic computer but that fix didn't last an hour. No errors found during diagnostics, dash shows no error, still says UP/DN. Next step will be a new load cell I expect .
     
  17. Had problem with mine but did the tyre calibration and not had problem since.
     
  18. Mine is still faulty. Dealer looked at it, rode it and say there's no fault. But there is. I am currently on a tour of Spain the bike has been absolutely faultless for nearly 2000 miles on the trip...until yesterday I thought I would give the QS another try and within a few miles I had a big flat spot on acceleration! Turned it off and bike is fine again. Its staying off.
     
  19. Tyre calibration has been done, but I see no reason it would have anything to do with the quick shift. Mine is intermittent, but mostly not working. To me this is a major feature of the bike, especially the down shift. Turning it off would be like going back to the 2015, just without the flat spot. I guess I'll see with a new load cell unit. Hmmm, how many weeks for that to arrive?
     
  20. I have issues with upshifts too, usually 5th to 6th, very occasionally 4th to 5th. Definitely a "false neutral" between 5th and 6th. PITA!
     
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