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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I must be reading and listening to something different then, I haven't seen much EU bad.
     
  2. Fair enough. I don't read the papers, was put off them a long time ago.

    I should have worded it differently I suppose.
     
  3. You were not watching and reading the news in 2015/2016 then?
     
  4. The point is: at the time of the Referendum, the Leave Campaign was promoting all manner of painless, business friendly options and saying trade would carry on as normal...

    That campaign won with a 2% margin.

    May’s Deal was actually far more extreme than that. “Not Brexity enough!”.

    Since then, the ultra-Brexiters have rejected every possible deal and pushed for the most catastrophically damaging outcome...
     
  5. No more than I had previously, my impression from the media around that time was that only stupid people would vote leave.
     
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  6. If you want to play the anarchist then st least act like one and sell everything you own and live in a commune. But you don’t, you consume the benefits of cooperation or cartels as you put it
     
  7. That is a fair point.

    Can I just correct your last sentence to how it appears to me please,

    Since then, the Politicians have rejected every possible deal and pushed for their most desired outcome...
     
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  8. Maybe you can explain market convergence and how it does/does not help competitors in the same field in different markets compete in a new shared market.

    Take furniture as an example, and technical standards for fire resistance converging.
     
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  9. Cars, cars, cars...that usually gets the pro/anti brigade frothing at the mouth :D
     
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  10. Don't forget Data Roaming charges.
     
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  11. What are these magical every possible deal you speak? the eu have only ever offered one
     
  12. And chicken!
     
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  13. You may. Though my point is that there was possibly a compromise Leave position which could have got enough support?

    Now the only position that hard Leavers will accept is the absolute most extreme option.

    Not surprisingly, there just is not majority support for that.
     
  14. Quite possibly.

    Too much time has been wasted arguing about the referendum result etc etc, when they invoked article 50 they should have started to negotiate then.
     
  15. Fascism is:
    "A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism".
    The EU is the ultimate in centralisation of authority,(including the ending of national sovereignty),by a dictatorship,(that is unelected leaders chosen by "selected" representatives,with a completely ineffective and neutered parliament.(The largest grouping in the EU parliament have got ZERO hands on the levers of power).
    Have you not noticed the violent suppression of opposition,e.g the yellow jackets in France,the bully-boy methods of British police when dealing with Brexit supporters outside parliament etc?.
    Belligerent nationalism? Well,the EU are definitely whipping up problems with the Russians / the Yanks and are now forming their own army,plus there are over 14,000 tariffs to protect EU producers from Foreign competition...
    Special treatment of anyone simply because of their skin colour/ethnic background is racism,no matter what socialists may claim.And if you take Germany & most of Scandinavia as an example,leniency is afforded to immigrants from certain countries but not others.That is the very definition of racism,and it is pretty much universal throughout the EU.
    Oddly,the UK is often touted by the media as one of the worst places for immigrants to settle,but when surveyed the immigrants say otherwise,that it is one of the most tolerant and inclusive nations....fancy that.
     
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  17. Isn’t that precisely what happened?

    We actually shouldn’t have invoked Article 50 until the country had agreed on what type of Brexit it wanted... That was the major fuck-up. We still don’t have a consensus, and the A50 deadline has passed (twice?).
     
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  19. Wouldn't they have more 'deals' started or closer to completion if they had ?
     
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