I suppose the UK (post Brexit) could consider Ireland as separate from the EU and continue frictionless trade across the border with NI. I mean, that's only the same as the EU are proposing to do, but the other way round
An excellent solution, as previously mentioned by T500. The only draw back is that it compromises the EC red lines that they insist on maintaining and extending their four pillars, including free movement of goods and people, across the whole of their empire.
Yeah..I understand that and my suggestion is clearly fraught with barriers (and I obviously realised it was nieve when I wrote it). But if we unilaterally applied the principle (and we effectively treated Ireland as a 'Special case/relationship'), the ball falls squarely in their court and trade from Ireland to NI could be free flowing. Trade the other way would be up to the EU to administer. The meddling in domestic policy/decisions for the best interest of an individual member state is the very reason so many people voted for the UK to leave the EU.
Just a little fly in the ointment - The GFA. Both sides promised no border infrastructure amongst other things. Currently most laws are the same (all being part of the EU etc etc) and currency is ambidextrous, border counties either side with take both £ and €. There's no way border control could be re-instated a la Canada & Mexico. If it was we'd be right back in the 70s again, it's already starting in Derry. It'll be interesting to see what happens as UK has said we'll keep up our part of the GFA and won't be installing a hard border. Dublin has said the same. It seems the unelected bureaucrats in the EU are saying 'there has to be a hard border' but they're not saying who's going to implement it. They never signed the GFA. Feckers, the lot of 'em.
"How the Irish Border Works and why there’s no need for the backstop. I. Current solution I was one of the architects that designed the security controls for this HMRC customs system. All goods for transportation across that border are manifested on the New Computerised Transit System (NCTS), which is a common system we use for all EU interfaces. It’s the country of origin that submits the manifest. The risk system decides based upon trusted trader status whether an intervention is to take place. Most manifests are cleared in about 5 seconds on line. If an intervention is to take place it happens at the first point of delivery in NI. This happens in less than 0,5% of cases. The people telling you that this technology doesn’t exist are incorrect as it’s been in place for years. 2. Post BREXIT solution We offer the EU to continue using NCTS export to UK. As a new 3rd Country we will have to switch to using the EUs Import Control System (ICS). HMRC has an existing front end to it as our importers currently use it for non EU goods. Registering is a simple process. If the EU allow us to continue using NCTS, all the better. 3. Live Animals solution This requires an additional process involving Defra and its Eire equivalent, who cross border and inspect the beasts before they can be shipped. A double tag solution is applied. 4. Food standard solution As solution 2, with a right of standards audit between importers and exporters. This becomes a mandated contract clause. 5. Compliance Regulatory Compliance of goods and farm standards: There is no reason not to maintain them for those that wish to export. We comply with all export market standards if we want to export to them. Not being able to have a say in them is a weak argument. We don’t have a say in other markets. Ivan Salmons MBA FIET MBCS is a former CESG CLAS consultant who worked for HMRC from 2010-2014". https://www.gov.uk/…/using-the-new-computerised-transit-sys… https://www.gov.uk/guidance/import-control-system
Yep, it can work, there are ways and means, if one wants it to work. The problem is there are many who don’t. The UK will be the first to leave the EU project. The EU project doesn’t want anyone to leave. Germany & France don’t want the UK to leave as it will cost them more each year. Germany & France control the EU project. Nuff said. I voted remain. I’ve since changed my mind.
you live in cork and you voted remain. how did you manage that? are you gonna move back to face the consequences? . You honestly have no idea. It is terrifying. If the Man in the Street actually knew the facts there would be outrage but nobody cares and everyone from the Prime Minister down to some guy venting on a motorbike forum would prefer to engage in this sort of tough talk machismo. . i'll tell you whats terrifying, there are three party's and their press trying to sell me what you guys have. and its quite possible one day they will win. that is fuging terrifying.
I moved here in 2012. I was born & lived in the UK until then & I have dual citizenship. I applied for a postal vote for the referendum as it was (is) an important referendum that would affect me, my children and future generations. Although I had deep misgivings about certain aspects of the EU project I voted remain as I believe in European countries clubbing together as a trading bloc. Additionally the status quo is always the least disruptive path and the Markets don’t like disruption and not knowing what’s around the corner and uncertainty in the Markets affects us all. I don’t need to move back to face the consequences of the majority decision, I face them here as much of my future is still inextricably linked with the UK.
Why is it terrifying Fin? IMO no-one can believe what is said by either the EU or the UK Govt in the Brexit negotiations as they are just posturing to get what they respectively want. They want the other side to feel terrified so they drip feed info to the press that will cause FUD (fear, uncertainty & doubt) in the other side and the other side’s populations. If I read there was an Ebola epidemic sweeping across Europe that would be terrifying but reading about Brexit is laughable. No one knows how it will pan out apart from there will be a deal, of sorts, as the UK & the EU are too big of trading partners for there not to be. No one should be terrified of it.
at the moment i can afford to be ill. my kids can afford to go to uni. if i fill the forms out properly and present them in time my house wont be reposssed to pay for my demetia, my kids can travel, which is quite handy as most of the institutions and big jobs have been relocated too?... they can walk through glasgow and not get stabbed, my isurances are low because of the drop in crime, there is a better chance of housing, he gets on fine with his polish mates. ect ect ect.
