Although this isn't mine, it looks like mine......on my 750 SS. Is this the Sachs-Boge rear shock? If so, are the pivot bushes the same size as the Showa? AL
I believe that is the later sb shock. It like like the one my mate removed from his 97 600ss. Can't help with the other info though.
Thanks, you are correct..........I have just this moment established it is the Sachs-Boge..........now I need to find out if the bearings are the same as the Showa....... AL
One of the lads at work has got a SB shock which he removed from his 600SS. It was a 97 model with about 8k miles on it. He rear ended a van and wrote the bike off. I helped him strip it and the shock was in good nick if you are interested. No idea how much its worth though. It is an SB one like that in your pic.
Just having a look on eBay and they seem to be anywhere between 40 and 120. How does 60 plus postage sound?. He's in Swindon and works in cricklade if you wanted to pick up and save postage.
Actually, I will leave it for the moment...not the cost, but the stroke is shorter on the 600 than on the 750 and 900 apparently....... .....or at least wait until I get mine off again to check it....perhaps you can establish what the dims are and see if it has been leaking etc. Thanks AL.
Al Mine is still off the bike if you want dimensions, spring not on so can't give you centre distance. Let me know what you want measuring. Cheers Gaz
But a shorta*se doesn't need that..........besides I have this set up so well, I have to pick the b*gger up in corners because it drops in so quickly........ AL
Thanks Gaz...it will be to see if the bearings I have in mine would actually fit yours..........then I'll know who to order from...................but if it is leaking, then its a different storey.... AL
Al, I know yours could be different but this is what my early 900 is like, there were some outer o rings and I thought the previous owner said he had put them there, I plan to put in o rings as shown and hope they don't pop out.
Gaz, Looks like arrangement may be similar but there are some differences with the O ring sizes......... ......and I doubt if you will have success with outer O rings......that's eaxctly what I considered and what squeezed out........the end of the frame lug is the same diameter if not smaller than the top hat bush OD on mine, so they are only between frame lug and shock eye for about 30% of their circumference. I am trying to find time to take my shock off (again) but far to busy at the moment.....Hopefully tomorrow or Saturday it will get done. AL
OK....Mine is off and apart..... Both bearings are dry; one very tight. O Rings are immediately under the top hat bushes. No circlips and grooves holding the bearing in...........just tight fit (although one knocked ot, the other was pulled). Can't find ref numbers on the bearings at the moment, so it will be a case of measuring it. However, it seems to be leaking, so it may not be worth doing anything with it..........Cost more to repair than to replace with a secondhand one.........if the secondhand one is good and not leaking etc. AL
Bearing sizes nowhere near the same.......as bl**dy ever typical.............now got to search for obscure f-ing bearing that is probably a special to Ducati only...... So far it looks as though it is Hirschmann SCP12 AL
From the sizes of the SCP12 I found GE12-PB in that catalogue I sent. Looks like they are a bit more expensive than the ones I have check these sites out. GE12PB Steel / Phosphor Bronze Spherical Plain Bearing 12x26x16x12mm Simply Bearings Ltd Another ref but these look a bit expensive and I get the feeling they are Chinese. GAS GAS PRO TXT .. LOWER SPHERICAL BALL BEARING DAMPER 12 x 26 x 16 x 12 GEBJ12S | eBay Many be worth a call to "Ericks" bearings looks like there are a few in your neck of the woods. As above the sizes are 12x26x16x12 Be careful not to get the GE12 if you order them they are only a few £ but different size. Please double check Info Al just in case I got it wrong. If your are going to replace the shock you might not need this but someone else could use it. No little wire spring retainer or circlip, Surprising. Cheers Gaz
Hi Gaz, thanks again.... The main thing about the SCP12 is that it is a maintenace free bearing with a PTFE / bronze fabric liner.........which appears to be what is inside the bearings I removed..... I'm trying to locate stockists of the Hirschmann products, to establish cost. AL
No problem, I do recall when looking round from replacements for the SB12A for the showa shock someone said replace it with coated bearing but then they came back and said there was not one available in that size. OK good luck. Cheers Gaz
The Hirschmann SCP12 is going to be the nearest I reckon (unless an Imperial size one converts nicely). The Outer race width is actually 11.7mm while the SCP12 is 12mm and the width across the 'ball' hole is actually 15.9mm as opposed to the SCP12 16mm....... ....I doubt if that would cause problems. AL
Gaz.........Something I noticed today when I was playing around with the shock........ The top eye and bearings fit into the frame lugs fairly snugly, so that the top hat bushes are held tight between the lugs..... ....but on the lower eye where it bolts into the swingarm, particularly the ally swingarm I fitted a few days ago, the swingarm lugs do not go tight up against the top hat bushes (or if they do, then I reckon there is danger of snapping one of the lugs off)........ .......and as the top hat bushes aren't particularly tight in the bearing and they aren't tight to the lug, they could walk out a bit.......Obviously they can't come right out, but........... .......and as I have shimmed my swngarm correctly I notice that the gap between the lugs and the top hat bushes is greater one side than the other (I didn't study my steel swingarm to see if it was the same before I removed it)........ ......so there could be something said for shimming the gap...........but the shim mustn't be greater in diameter than the top hat bushes, otherwise this defeats the object of the spherical bearing (the shock can't twist on it). AL
