Disc Lock Advice - Thoughts ?

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by tricolore, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. I’ve bought a few disc locks over the years from cheap £20 ones to slightly more expensive Xena locks with alarms at £50 but reading opinions they don’t offer much of a deterrent as can be cut with a grinder and/or the disc will be cut to remove the lock, also doesn’t stop the bike from being lifted. What’s the advantage on the enclosed, you can add a security chain to the lock but what’s the benefit over a chain through the wheel.... getting paranoid about security these days..

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254748567927

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  2. Wouldn’t even bother.

    it’s okay as a layer of security but you can just lift the thing up and walk off with it mate.
     
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  3. If you are serious then it’s all about layers.

    I’d rather spend £150/ £200 on 3 decent disc locks to my bike than rely on one hefty chain.

    Although chaining it to something will deter it being lifted straight into a van

    Generally thieves don’t like too much flaffing about.

    A cordless disc cutter will do a chain, any chain, even a 19mm Pragmasis, (my personal garage preference) or another style lock.

    Three separate locks will really bugger them about.
     
  4. I tend to go with bright colours, sounds bollox but I think that if your bike immediately looks harder to nick than what it’s parked next to then it’ll make them think twice, as soon as you get the nob head thief to think twice you’ll most likely be ok
    Similar mentality to covers, doesn’t make it harder to steal but makes a bike without one more attractive. Not that I would ever wish anyone to have a bike nicked
    The best solution would be some sort of electrical device that just fries any fuker who tries to touch it

    I’m assuming here that we’re talking about when we park up during a ride, for a bike at home, if it’s not garaged I’d def chain it to a ground anchor
     

  5. You say that. But a portable grinder takes a fair old amount of time to get through a decent chain like an Almax (and a few cutting discs usually). I’ve seen it with my own eyes. The usual tactic is croppers but there’s no portable croppers that have jaws big enough to manage an Almax for example.

    and not many carry a proper petrol grinder.

    Plus the noise both make would wake the dead. You could get the wheel out quicker than you could cut a proper chain with anything that’s not a serious tool. And hardly any bikes get nicked removing wheels.


    Disk locks however are pretty much useless. Even the pricier ones are fairly easy to overcome. I’ve seen people just cut the disc instead.
     
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  6. I agree with @Ebbs73
    Great bit of kit, negates the chance of rolling the bike when engaged so avoids potential damage, you don't need to lug a disc lock round. I've used one for 3 years now

    At home ground anchor and Almax chain, claymores, trip wires and sentry gun. Was going to dig a moat around the garage but the wife said that would be a bridge too far
     
    #7 Andy800, Jan 5, 2021
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  7. It’s still a big fuck off chain and proper concreted in ground anchor for me. All day. Speak to any copper with experience in bike theft and he’ll tell you the same thing. Cordless grinders will defeat a chain but they’re bulky and make a right din. If you’re in earshot you’ll definitely get reaction time.

    Of course the layer theory is true. The more the better. Number one being concealment. Personally I have a secure and reasonably concealed garage. Alarmed and CCTV. And a big fucking dog. Not impossible to do me but it’s definitely harder than doing the guy next door ;)
     
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  8. I have a steel wire with hardened rollers that cannot be cut with an angle grinder as they turn.
    However the weak link is the lock itself.
    I have datatool trakking fitted, although not advertised on the bike.
    At least if the barstards take it, I can follow it and hopefully get it recovered.
    At the end of the day if they want it they will take it, whatever you do to secure your bike.
    Even putting your bike in a Hatton garden strong room would not guarantee that it would not be stolen.
     
  9. In addition to any security, put a note on the fairing saying "Hi thieves! You're on camera and the bike is wired to the mains electric".
     
  10. I’ve got one of these that I use when out, it spins that supposedly make it difficult to attack with a grinder, and a big hard chain and ground anchor at home.......

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  11. Nice butt plug
     
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  12. Ooh err ! Lube it up and the angle grinder will really struggle
     
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  13. These will fit in your coat pocket and wizz through stuff when fitted with the right discs. Used to have one at a bike shop I was spannering for,
    and it would go through pretty much anything. Relatively quiet too compared to bigger 125mm units.
    https://www.its.co.uk/pd/GWS-12V-76-12v-76mm-Brushless-Grinder---Body-_BOSGWS12V76N.htm
     

  14. I’ve no idea about that particular unit. But I watched a demo at the bike show years ago by the fire brigade on the Almax chain and it took them 7 minutes from memory with a hand held to get through it.

    7 minutes is a long time to be sat about grinding
     
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  15. Would have been quicker to pick it up and throw it in the back of a van...

     
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