I bet the V4 reviews have rattled a cage or two in the BMW research and development dept The GS will need more than a paint job to do what the new Multi will do
Well the one thing that the new Multi has already done well that the GS hasn’t........... Made the majority of its previous model owners look elsewhere when most had no intention
The simple fact is that GS's are like pubic hair every C---ts got them yes it has function but so has my toilet cystern. You say it has better fuel economy but most riders I know dont give a tinkers toss about economy or the fact range is way better on a GS. Again most people are happy to stop and take a break to top up grab a coffee a couple of times a day. Breaking your balls by riding 500 mile days end up not that much fun ... been there done that. So enjoy riding the GS its just not my cup of tea
So if Ducati succeeds and sells in numbers never imagined before the new V4 will become pubic hair. But if it doesn't it will be a failure since it will have alienated its customer base as well. Am I missing something? In some countries having a range of less than 270 kms can leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere, so providing a new model with bigger tank but equal or lesser range than the model of 10 years ago, is not what I call a success story.
Well I popped along to Riders earlier to check out the V4 Multi and the V4S SF Stealth. I must say the SF looks awesome, but the matt paint will not satisfy my urge to polish paint! Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the look of the Multi. However, it did remind me of a GS although from the front, it was much smaller than the bus of a GS. 19" front wheel and small section rear tyre did look slightly odd. Not quite a Penny Farthing, but noticeable compared to the range of 1260 MTS' in the showroom. I am going to give the V4MTS a run out in the Spring as it wasn't quite as bad as I though it would be. Just gotta get rid of the GS look. I wished they'd made it look less like a 1260 Enduro though.
JHP have had their bike delivered today. I wonder how long before we will be able to go and have a look? Looks like they have a V4s Sport version.
Just thought I would add why I am looking at buying one. I have never paid much attention to the signature Ducati features like dry clutch, Desmo valve and Trellis frame. I never accepted these as USP’s ; as if they were all that other companies would do the same extensively. Secondly I tested a Multi in both 1200 and 1250 modes and found them cramped. The early Multi still had fuel clitches. Finally I looked hard at a GS but just could not get passed the fact that everyone has one.
If that's naughty, my 1260 with a full Termi is completely filthy. Just the thing for a weekend away!
All I heard on that video was a bunch of mechanical engine noise. I’m sure it sounds nice from behind - especially at full song and even better with a free-flowing pipe. My V4 Tuono sounded amazing, even with the stock pipe (loudest stock pipe on any bike I’ve ever owned). I’m quite happy with the sound of my 1260 S with full Termi though.
Yes.... Definitely needs a proper pipe on it, that sounds about the same as my old mini. We need to hear it at full chat on a fly past with their optional full system it’s only £ 2376 extra
Most of the GS riders I’ve seen only ride as far as the nearest BMW dealers where the congregate in packs in their BMW branded clothing and high viz polite wastecoats, drinking expensive coffee and negotiating their next GS and the trade in value of their sub 10k current model. on the subject of GS’s I rewatched the long way round series the other week, what a clusterf*ck decision that was by KTM
Apparently, KTM is not alone making clusterf*ck decisions. On another subject of GS: This is the only GS I'm interested in.
Being on my third BMW (second GS) and also my third Ducati, a Monster (had a 1200 Multi) I can safely say that it is mostly Ducati with ultra low miles. Still remember the Ducati dealer working out a price for my Multi to trade in with only 15k on it, “how many miles..?” wtf, its an adventure bike! I hate that term anyway, “adventure bike”. Ffs, just a comfy do everything bike with an upright riding position is what they mean. My best adventure was my first full on Euro trip on an R1.
I did 28,000 miles in under 3 years on my Mutley 1200 & traded it in for a GS1200; which is nearing 40,000 miles. Some of us do use them a fair bit.
