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Rukka Kingsley 2021 Kit

Discussion in 'Clothing, Gadgets & Equipment' started by GunZenBomZ, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. They only put things up against other things they're selling.
     
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  2. I totally disagree with your Motolegends 'thoughts', albeit a loose description, to which of course you are unequivocally entitled.

    I have always found them to be really genuine, helpful, interested and open to discussion about any products I've been considering.
    When buying my Rukka gear from them, they were happy to change my choices at least twice, before I finally settled on what I preferred and they certainly didn't once try to change my mind "against other things they're selling".

    As it happens even though I totally highly rate Rukka kit, there's no way I would ever consider spending this much money on on a suit! WOW.....:eek:
     
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  3. Sounds like a great reason to buy from Hideout and get a made to measure suit that won't need sending back for much the same money. It's a no brainer! You will also be supporting a British company that has supported British motorcyclists for decades.:upyeah:
     
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  4. You could have a bespoke suit from Hideout for less money.
    Personally I think Rukka is way over priced.
     
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  5. I’m sure hideout is great, but do they make a multi laminate product with has the same warranty as the rukka? eBay would be my question, if you go custom fit with Hideout it’s +30% which makes there £1040 jacket £1352 which I guess is the same as the Rukka but custom fit, so that’s the sort of thing you need to be looking at
     
  6. Look up the spec on their HiPro range then give them a ring and have a chat about anything else you need to know, they are mega knowledgeable and helpful professionals who actually make the clothing there on site.
     
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  7. Had a good look at Hideout a while ago but it was about the time they dropped Gore-Tex. I know why they did it but I stick to the Gore-tex only rule
     
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  8. Can you expand on that and explain why ? I’m interested because I am most definitely not an off the peg size and if I’m going to splash the cash on something like the Rukka, I’d like to understand where the Hideout kit sits. Andy
     
  9. Gore-Tex have a punishing test system for any gear that carries their name, where you have to submit a sample garment and they test it and approve it.
    Myself I am most likely going for the Rev'it Poseidon II next time. I have had the earlier model for 6 years and it has never let me down. The new suit has addressed some short comings and shows they listen
     
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  10. Goretex is also independently warrantied and use of it in any garment generally shows that it’s a well tested product, as they wouldn’t go to the expense of adding it unless it was. There are some other technologies for sure and I’m sure competitive, but I’m also from a school of thought regarding the quality.
     
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  11. glad there is starting to be some more solid awareness around this! Many manufacturers in the lets say ‘budget’ area were playing fast and loose with CE!! Rukka definitely are not one of those firms and I’m sure Hideout aren’t either! These smaller high cost firms just can’t afford to risk the business they have built
     
  12. Please check but I believe Goretex have now changed their warranty procedure.
    But having had various garments with Goretex, I can honestly say it’s not the “ be all and end all” of breathable waterproof membrane, it does fail, well at least it has with me in the past. But my Hideout kit hasn’t, not yet anyway.
     
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  13. Having had other products such as Dainese with their version of ‘Gortex’ in the past I will ONLY go for real Gortex products. The Gortex ‘lite’ products do not compare.
     
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  14. My 3 year old Sidi Adventure Goretex boots lost their waterproofing when I was in Iceland. Took them back to shop I'd bought them from to be told only one year warranty on them. Not true said I. The boot may have a year on it but Gore warranty their lining for the life of the product ( a few caveats ). So boots went off; were shown to have failed and I got a brand new pair.
    So I'll keep buying Gore stuff.
     
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  15. Hideout Hi-Pro uses a laminate, and I’d be keen to know people’s experiences of it. I might start saving up because I've been mightily impressed by my Hideout leathers, and they are all (leathers and textiles) tested to the highest CE standard.

    I’m confident that Hideout will stand by their products, full stop. I once had a minor issue with a zip alteration, and they fixed it immediately and without charge – a more positive experience than when I tried to use Rukka’s warranty.

    I have had more failures and niggles with Rukka (zips failing, buttons coming off, dampness despite Gore-Tex). Hideout uses the absolute best quality zips and fittings to prevent these problems. Over the years, my Gore-Tex textiles from Rukka, Dainese and Alpinestars have all had significant issues. The main zip has failed on every one of them, and many a Rukka popper has popped off.

    On the road, I have witnessed a top-of-the-range Rukka suit destroyed in a low-speed crash. Coincidentally, Rukka is one of the worst offenders at sidestepping CE certification.

    For several years – until, I believe, Trading Standards stepped in – Rukka had a big fat “CE” label on some of its clothing. But it had been tested against the old ‘gardening gloves’ standard, not the CE standard for motorcycle PPE.

    Rukka currently uses a loophole via a Finnish Notified Body to “comply” with EN 17092 without testing its clothing against the A/AA/AAA standards. I have only seen one Rukka suit tested properly; the Kingsley suit passed the AA rating, but Rukka added an extra abrasion-resistant layer compared to the rest of its clothing range.
     
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  16. With the advent of the Nivala 2, Rukka couldn’t avoid the CE tests anymore. And the Nivala 2 suit (yours for a snip at £2.2k) got a shoddy ‘A’ rating, which is the least protective score possible :rolleyes:

    Now we know why Rukka had been trying to sidestep the CE ratings. But I’m baffled why Rukka didn’t use extra abrasion-resistant material (as per the Kingsley) in the Nivala 2.
     
  17. See, Stadler/Touratech is just the best. Bar none.
     
  18. Very very few manufacturers can achieve AAA on textiles. So far the only companies making textiles to this standard are Hideout and BKS, and as a result are chosen suppliers to Emergency forces riders. I am sure there are one or two other suppliers meeting the standard, but that’s about it.
     
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