Is that a fact? I didn’t dyno mine, either before or after, but the mid range felt a good bit better after the full system was installed. On both the 1200 & 1260.
I don’t doubt that, peak power won’t improve much (not that you’d notice) but it should smooth the curve and improve midrange on the way up there, I think that’s what you could feel on you bum dyno?
At time of looking 14:00 must of already be sold, couple of OEM rear silencers but no OEM cat boxes The cat or pre silencer as they call it is part no. 57314361A £1004
When fitting a full Termi + upmap on my 2015 plate Pikes Peak, there was definitely an increase in overall BHP, up by circa 5%. This was categorically confirmed by the specification information as supplied by the manufacturers as well as by Riders, Bristol, who fitted the entire set-up. So, as far as I am aware, there WILL be an increase in power output and there was also greatly improved smoothness, throttle response AND sound too, particularly with the baffle removed. As for end can/slip-on replacement, this is largely for weight reduction and aesthetics.
With a full Termi system you not only de-cat the exhaust but you also get an engine map update. That update is tuned to take advantage of the freerer flowing exhaust gasses. That's where your 5% extra power and extra smoothness comes from. Other aftermarket de-cats don't have that benefit (nor the hefty price tag) but the reduced restrictions in flow still brings a more mellifluous ride and a pleasing exhaust note. Any decat will reduce weight by some 5kg which is worth having. A slip on will not bring much reduction in weight at all.
The stock exhaust is very efficient. A full Termi may even detract peak HP and Torque and move any slight gains down the RPM band thus the placebo effect. Everyone considering spending that amount of money should at least visit this thread. https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/dyno-comparison-standard-v-termi-exhaust.37412/
160 RWHP is 20 RWHP more than a stock 1260! Not a snowball's chance in hell. I'm not trying to be condescending or anything of the sort but In the absence of a Before & After Dyno chart, any gains did not happen. Here's my stock 1260 Dyno chart using the "Happy" STD smoothing which overstates RWHP by about 2~3 HP. SAE smoothing should have been used. Most important, notice the smooth shape of the line and the absence of major dips. That's what you want. This is stock and Ducati has done an amazing job improving the fuelling over the 1200 which had a notorious dip. Every Dyno chart published has shown that installing a Full Termi has added next to no improvement in peak HP. Moreover, these same charts has shown a decrease in peak torque. The best you can achieve with a full Termi is slightly improving mid-range HP without any change in peak HP at best and giving-up some at worst. What you're getting for all that money is sound. Weight savings...ROFLOL as if you're going to notice a few pounds off the lowest part of the CoG. All said, there's no rational other than "whatever makes you feel good". That's the bottom line. PS. If "Peak HP" is what you're seeking, unrestricted headers (such as Akropovic), Sprint racing air filter, velocity stacks, an unrestricted silencer and a custom ECU fuel map tune to match is the way to go to build a racing machine. However, the decibels will wake-up the dead. Why stop there? Add light forged wheels, a dry clutch, Aella rear-sets, an aluminium rear sprocket and a 520 chain. Trash the Skyhook, for an Ohlins TTX suspension. Remove all lights, add carbon block-offs and mount Pirelli Pirelli Diablo SC3 Superbike Slicks. Load the bike, gear and umbrella girl on the chartered Challenger 605 and fly-off to Colorado Springs.
You can of course and before I answer you, I didn't suggest it made that much, if any sense, assuming that was the implication contained within your post. Indeed, whenever I make any assessment about the overall costs of motorcycle ownership, which I've engaged with since 2001, none of it makes sense, particularly when based on a cost per mile determination. That said, in terms of overall enjoyment and the fun + camaraderie that I've had from owning and riding a motorcycle, this benefit always outweighs the cost. So, back to your question; the whole Termi thing fitted cost me circa £1300. It improved the bike riding characteristics no end and increased the enjoyment every time I got on it. When I sold the bike, I took the Termi off and sold it for £800, then re-fitted the manufacturer supplied standard end can. The bike was a Pikes Peak model, so included a Termi slip-on, which I also sold for circa £300, so in reality the overall cost to me was £200; Result! Vanity yes, with added riding benefits yes (power increase, weight loss, better visually), potential waste of money yes. Loads of fun riding YES.... OH and the reason I posted my earlier reply, was in response to the incorrect DAR post about power increase.
With all those benefits, your £200 sounds like money well spent. I based the 8 ponies on Pikes Peak 2015 specs list 160; your post mentioned circa 5% gain.
A system will give you big gains midrange mostly on a multi as long as it’s fuelled correctly. and that’s what most people miss when they look at a dyno.
For the 1260, zero peak HP gains and very little mid-range improvements. For the 1200, there's some mid-range gains to pick-up as you're eliminating the dip and smoothing the curve. One this note, most of the improvement can be had with an ECU flash alone. I'm not knocking the Termi or any other mod. But it's definitely a vanity purchase. Nothing wrong with that. Skies the limit on bling. Whatever turns your crank and makes you happy. That's what it's all about.
The Multistrada 1200 specs of 160 was a lie. Ducati revised-it down to 152. Other than visordown, nobody touched this story. https://www.visordown.com/news/general/ducati-lowers-power-claims Moreover, the excuse Ducati claimed was total balderdash. Not that this is defending Ducati but they're not the only manufacturer to overstate performance and understate weights.
If you can get a hold on the app map of the full termi system and install it you will get all the performance with the cat and witho the noise. I know. Mine put 140 go at the rear wheel.
