1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Microtech M197!

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Wooly46, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. Just wondering if you run one of these ecus would you ditch the power commander? Cheers
     
  2. All depends on what mapping you use. If it is custom mapped for the bike then, yes.
    If your bike uses the IAW5AM ECU then using TuneECU you can overlay the Power Commander mapping onto the ECU mapping. You can then remove the Power Commander. You need an android device and the USB cable/adaptor from LonElec.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Love You Love You x 1
  3. I have a Nemesis on my 749R rather than Microtec, same same but different. I also have an old PClll fitted to my 851, which does a brilliant job for the money

    If you already have a mapped PC why do you need the M197? You can tune each cylinder independently, you can plug a quickshifter into the PC and it works brilliantly for far cheaper than a standalone unit. A PCV even lets you run 2 switchable maps. What else were you hoping to gain with an M197/Nemesis that you haven't got with the PC?

    One pretty much makes the other redundant. The M197/Nemesis does offer a lot more scope for fiddling/monitoring/configuration/adjustability but if all you want to do is tune the thing after fitting an exhaust or the like it's really overkill.

    Short answer to your question though, yes, I would remove the PC and get a few bob for it. If you can afford a Microtec ECU you can afford to have it set up, making the PC a box of electronics performing no function other than being a potential source of failure.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Thanks for that info. Can you get the same outcome by flashing the standard ecu or does the pc3 tune the fuelling better? Cheers
     
  5. Yep, basically at the end of the day they all just map throttle position against rpm, there is no better or worse. Maybe if you break it right down to how many points you are able to map there are probably variations but realistically you aren't going to be able to pick one has more or less via your bum dyno. The Nemesis/Microtec allows you to adjust the "transient" function, the amount of correction applied as you apply the throttle, kind of like an electronic accelerator pump, PC does the same, not so sure about flashing an OEM ecu, never played with one.

    The downside of flashing the OEM ecu is you need to still need to buy a full stand-alone quickshifter, where the others are just plug and play, only requiring the sensor.

    One big advantage of the PC is just about any dyno operator will know how to tune/use it. You don't want to be shelling out for someone to learn how to talk to your ECU, download software etc.

    The upside of spending the coin on a Microtec/Nemesis is you get to spend even more coin, lol. The plug and play functionality extends to a lambda kit allowing closed loop tuning (just set the AFR you want and it makes the adjustments for you), you can fit something like a Digitek Falcon dash (if you can find one) and a lap timing kit which will display direct on the Falcon dash. None of it is cheap but it's all very integrated. It's pretty powerful stuff with a heap of adjustment possibilities (tyre circumference, idle speed on 1098/1198, configure sensors etc etc) but it's also overkill if you aren't going to use any of those functions.
     
    • Like Like x 1
Do Not Sell My Personal Information