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1200 Buying Advice

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by Suffolk Duke, Feb 25, 2021.

  1. Mass Air Flow sensor, it regulates fuel/air mixture hence the poor mpg and popping/backfire on tick over, there are two of them, one for each cylinder and the fault code read by the software tells you which ones faulty. You can use the same software on the DVT models but I believe you can only read data and not reset faults or service lights. If you search there are threads on here of what leads to buy (£30ish) and where to download the software, just search for JPDiag.

    Not owned a Ohlins multi so can’t comment but the skyhook is good and handy for me as the mrs joins me often so easy to switch to 2up plus luggage etc. Reported to be an even better system on the DVT models?
     
  2. Thanks Ackers. The Touring looks very good value compared to the PP as basically the same set up. Is yours in the Grey?
     
  3. Anyone got any experience with a Mivv exhaust? Seen a bike for sale with one of these fitted.
     
  4. Nah Red. From what I can tell the 13-14 PP gets lighter wheels and a bit of carbon over the standard S model. I don’t think there’s anything else in it? Maybe a termi end can?
     
  5. Yeh I think you are right, plus the paint job.
     
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  6. I think there was a silver option but also the grey/gun metal models, they might have been the GT spec, they are touring spec but with crash bars, fog lights, taller screen and bigger/wider panniers?
     
  7. Just so you know the Twin spark engine doesn't make as much power as the pre Twin spark engine. Reason for this is the Twin spark has a lower compression than the earlier engine.
    The extra spark plug accounts for most of that.
     
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  8. I had a Mivv Suono on my 2010 Multi, mainly as it was the least expensive full system at the time. I found the sound it gave rather harsh and a tad noisy. I also know of two Mivv end cans that shook themselves to pieces.
    Note that this was several years ago so may not represent what MIVV are offering now.
    I now have a 2015 DVT and I fitted an Arrows decat system to it. It is excellent, well made with a loudish but sonorous sound. Recommended.
     
  9. Pp has a red frame and looks the better for it
     
  10. May as well toss my hat into the ring. I have a 2012 first generation, single spark, S Touring that has electronic Ohlins. I have the Ohlins (after market) SCU that turns the electronic into a semi reactive suspension. IMO, this configuration out performs the generation of Sachs Skyhook you are looking at. Of the two pre DVT generation, the first generation, single spark engine is the easiest to tune. Not seen it mentioned so far but the valve service (every 15,000 miles) is expensive. Had mine since new, closing in on 40,000 miles although I chose to have the engine rebuilt after the horizontal cylinder started to wear more than the vertical cylinder, resulting in bottom tolerance compression. Subsequently in a recent post, that could have been explained by running too rich after an ECU remap which could have washed oil off the bores (conjecture but possible). Why did I choose to rebuild an 8 year old 30,000 plus mile engine ? It is my forever bike that has not been significantly bettered by the twin spark or the 1200 DVT. Andy
     
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  11. I had a 2013, base model. They were twinspark from 2013 onwards. Lights upgraded in 2013, very bright.
    Personally, would shop around for a low miles well looked after base model. Change the rear shock for a quality unit and get the suspension setup. The remote adjuster is easy to reach on the move. That would be the best value for money. Andreani do a cartridge kit at reasonable money for the front end if it really needs fettling.
    Heated grips fail often just before two years. Had mine replaced under warranty. Best bit about them is the neat design and wiring.
    Corrosion and soft fasteners an issue. But agreat bike just the same and rather quick.
    Regular clean or bypass the exhaust valve. Same with all bikes with exhaust valves, it is not just Ducati.
    As with most bikes the biggest improvements in handling come from fitting decent tyres.
     
  12. Thanks Coman for the feedback on the Mivv. I heard the all carbon ones we no good. The bike I have seen on line is a 2013 so no idea how old the Mivv's are but they look all carbon. Need to hear it though as you say just to make sure. I would prefer a Termi or Arrow system though. This is the thread that I read:
    Mivv Suono exhaust review. | Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum
     
  13. When you say electronic Ohlins, what do you mean? Is it adjusted electronically? I know what you mean, Ohlins better than Sachs Skyhook, but does the continuous variable suspension make it worthwhile? I do like the look of the PP models and they are also a bit different so maybe just see what comes up for sale. As for power, either generation will have plenty enough for me!
     
  14. The first generation 1200 S came with electronic suspension that you set through the dash. If you wanted to go two up, you had to change the setting. Late 2012/early 2013, Ohlins came up with a replacement suspension control unit that adjusts the suspension as you are riding. It had to rely on the data the bike could give it instead of the later Sachs Skyhook that had added sensors to gather data. The manual Ohlins on the Pikes Peak (apart from one year when it was Sachs Skyhook) are great if you don’t need to change your settings that often. That said, compression and rebound are only the turn of a screw. Andy
     
  15. Hi
    I've had my 2013 PP for a year and a half now and its an absolutely fantastic bike does everything
    Touring,scratching commuting the bike does it all.....
    like you I wanted a PP expensive yes but for me worth it if you buy a multistrada with low mileage
    Remember 15,000 miles is the big service so factor that in when you buy
    Test ride when you can and I'm sure you will find something to suit your budget
    Good luck and keep us all posted on your progress
     
  16. Great advice again thank you. Can you confirm the service intervals and I assume the 15000 miles is the valves so more expensive. Will this cost more than my current bike - ST4S?
     
  17. Standard service annually or every 7500miles.
    Valve service every 15000 miles (not time dependant)
    Timing belts every 5yrs or 15000 miles

    Prices vary on valve service cost, dealer prices vary, independent will be cheaper, if shims need replacing then that affects it, heard some remove bodywork etc and deliver the bike to reduce labour costs?
    So can’t really put a price on it but expect a dealer to be £1000+
     
  18. Christ that's a scary price! Better check with my local specialist! Last time I spent under £400 for valves, belts, oil and filter on the ST4S.
     
  19. 30,000km service belts (the expensive revision) and complete kit of chain, crown, and pinion original air filters, oil, etc etc updating and updating in official service a 2016 dvt, 900 euros cost, washed and collected and delivered at home
     
  20. Still looking for a Pikes Peak and looking forward when I can actually view one and take one for a spin!

    I saw a video clip of an earlier 2012 PP with Ohlins suspension - looks a lovely bike - but the note from the exhaust seemed quiet. I was surprised because it had the original Termi end can. Is this normal as I want a bike that sounds like a Duke? Maybe I need one with an after market exhaust?
     
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