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Broadband

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PerryL, May 14, 2020.

  1. There's only two providers of internet infrastructure. It's BT or it's Virgin. With BT it can be fibre up to the exchange, which may be miles away then it's good old slow copper cable to your house.
    So all those Plus net, EE, Talk Talk etc etc use the BT system sadly I've found BT to be the biggest weak link in all this. So if you want a relatively trouble free service it has to be Virgin, and they're not brilliant.
     
  2. Unless moving onto a new estate are Virgin even expanding their network? They inherited it from Ninex/Cable&Wireless/NTL. I think it’s too costly to run cables to streets so if it’s not available to you now it’s not likely to be.
    You’ll get 5G before Virgin cable up an existing area?

    As for ftth, I struggle to see what sort of domestic customer needs GB fibre to the home anyway, unless they are running their own hosting/server farm?
    Even now it’s prohibitively expensive and it’s been available to me for over 10yrs. I don’t think there will ever be enough takers to bring the cost down?

    I agree with what you say about routers though. A cheaper option I run though is the Service providers supplied kit at one end of the house and then a couple power line adapters (£20 Ebay) and then another router (a fairly decent dlink, again £80 eBay) at the other end of the house. Devises just switch to whichever gives best signal where you are.
     
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  3. Isn’t it mostly fibre to the cabinet nowadays? Which is fine if you live near a cabinet. I live 0.6 miles from one so the best I can get is 14/0.4 my old house was around the corner from the cabinet so could get 80/10 there
     
  4. I was a Telewest customer and they got bought out by Virgin (I think Telewest went bust). Where I used to live there were lots on new houses being built. I assumed that Telewest/Virgin would put in a fibre infrastructure to be ready to connect and gain lots of new customers. They didn't bother. And now thousand of house right next to the old Telewest exchange (now Virgin) can't have Virgin fibre.

    I guess that wireless is the way that everyone wants to go. Everything at my gaff is EE who I am going to leave. They keep messaging me to say how great it will be with 5g and that I need to but a new Virgin mobile NOW!

    The thing that many overpaid "bright young thing" managers don't get, is that wireless is f***ing temperamental. Here, you are lucky to get a 3g signal!

    I guess that still living with Mummy in London, clouds their judgement - if they had any judgement....
     
  5. Had fibre to the premises from BT at my last house, almost worth not getting divorced... but not quite. Now the ex has the house and the stonking connection. I have to run my business from a rental property with a crappy ADSL line :(
     
  6. They are. I was with them when they were a start up, being run from Sheffield. They were brilliant back then, less so now. Made the mistake of going to TalkTalk for a year, tried John Lewis (ok) but back with Plusnet now and happy enough. They will do you a deal if you haggle when you get to end of contract.
     
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  7. I think they all will. Virgin wanted to put my service up earlier in the year. I politely refused, and gave notice to cancel & disconect. I had three separate calls from them and finally they came back with a price fix on my current payment and frozen for 18months.
     
  8. I've been with Sky for 20+ years and have had no issues. YMMV.
     
  9. No issues?

    You've heard of Kay Burley, right?

    On an equally serious note, I had Sly TV and BB for several years, with no problems of a technical nature. Very solid service.
    I junked Sly only because I don't wish to fund propagandist/globalist organisations.
     
  10. Digging up an old thread (seems to be the fad on here now ;):laughing:)

    our local rag ran a story this week on CityFibre who are picking up/finishing off where FibreCity (see what they did there) left off when they went bust 10yrs ago, laying ftth around Bournemouth/Poole/Christchurch and then leasing the line to providers apparently, although Vodafone is the only one available at the moment? I think they have a timed exclusive agreement?
    They are selling 900mbs for £60mth but supply equipment capable of 200mbs at best(802.11ac)? Unless you use a wired connection and who does that nowadays? So what’s the point in paying for that? It’s like being blessed with a 12” knob but your hot wife only has a 2” fanny!
     
  11. 802.11ax or as it’s more commonly known - Wifi-6 is the answer to that issue.

    Obviously most devices aren’t currently compatible but very soon all new devices will come with it built in and you can already buy home routers with it built in.

    It’s substantially faster than the 802.11ac standard which they are now calling Wifi-5.

    That being said - nothing beats a physical cable if you want guaranteed performance so don’t rule them out just yet!
     
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  12. It just highlights the garbage equipment the service providers supply, luckily with Virgin you can’t put it into modem mode and run your own better router, but on many you can’t because the provider has locked it down. Then they give you power line extenders which again limits the speed.
     
  13. using your mobile contract for personal hotspots in your house of your devices is unlikely to be considered breaking fair use policy (in my personal opinion). Using it to make sure all your neighbours have some internet would be.
     
  14. In Devon, I use BT Unlimited. Being 200 metres from the sea, it’s literally my only choice. It’s 50mb download and 20mb upload so decent enough for streaming/gaming.

    In central London, I use G-Network, £50 a month and my download speed is 500mbs and upload is 300mb. Pretty mental how fast it is.
     
  15. @ £50 per month, it should be!
     
  16. I’m moving in to a new build soon. There’s a few suppliers who have the monopoly on it, one or two I know are shit.


    Let the games begin
     
  17. I had a provider all lined up for my move to Cheltenham last September. Only to find after I had moved in and they came that week to install did I discover that Virgin, whom the previous owners had used, had ripped out all the BT Openreach wiring. To get this rectified would have taken 6-8 weeks according to the BT engineer. Basically forced my hand to go with Virgin which was probably the reason that they did what they did on their original install, bastards... :mad:
     
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