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Wsbk Magny Cors Spoiler - Protest

Discussion in 'Racing & Bike Sport' started by bradders, Sep 6, 2021.

  1. Toprak knew he went on the green. They all do. He made the mistake and provided the opportunity. Rea took it. It is utterly ruthless and what champions do. They dont care one iota if you dont like it or them.

    Do you think Topraks friend and mentor Keenan would have not taken that opportunity? Damned right he would. Keenan is one rider I wouldnt dice with. He'd shove a stick in yer spokes as he overtook you if he thought he could get away with it. Thats why he was so dominant. Utterly ruthless competitor and a true champion.
     
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  2. Bollocks. At that speed, to be less than an inch over a white line?!
     
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  3. He did. You can of course disagree Bradley old bean, as you say. ;p

    Riders brake at the same spot, lap after lap after lap. They know exactly where they are on the track. We dont, because well,... were not good. Well Im not anyways.
     
  4. Not sure that's true when they're off their normal line and fighting for position.
     
  5. Its been stated by ex riders and the like during commentary that the riders know when theyve gone onto the green, so I am probably relying too much on that as fact.
     
  6. Yes, JR is an arse but then so was Micheal Schumacher, so is Lewis Hamilton and that list goes on and on and on ........... and on. You don’t get to be at the top of your sport by being a nice person. You get there by fair means or foul. What gets my goat is the seemingly inflexible rules and the intransigence with which they are applied ....... when it suits the stewards. Andy
     
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  7. Can't imagine Troy Bayliss doing the same if Edwards had kissed a bit of green paint...
     
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  8. Especially as Rea had just attacked and was about to block pass into the next turn as well...
     
  9. not by an inch mate, have you seen the footage? This isn't over a kerb and beyond, its a think white line with about (maybe) 4-6 inches of green paint outside of it. I can assure you by the time he reaches there he is looking way thru the next corner
     
  10. Here you go.... just to demonstrate the margin... and I'd love to know where Rea has his rear wheel given he was tighter in and therefore wider out from the turn... Screenshot 2021-09-10 at 13.49.08.png
     
  11. You dont have to prove it to me Brad. I'm not a steward. :) I also agree it was an outrageous decision. BUT, Toprak made the mistake of providing an opportunity to an opponant. He knows about the risk of touching green on the last lap, yet he did it. Therefore he is to blame. Not JR. You cannot give a 6x world champion an inch, because as he has shown he will take that inch and beat you with it.

    As for JR's wheels, it is a shame no-one was behind to record that. He's prob guilty too.

    I suspect this will probably come back and haunt JR. Live by the sword and all that. His green transgressions will be scrutinised from now on. So prob not worth teh 5 points.
     
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  12. isn't it only a foul if the transgressor gained some advantage from it?
     
  13. No, black or white. Stay on the tarmac (and a bit of curb) or be penalised. In MotoGP and WSBK, during the race, transgress three times, you get a warning, transgress two more times after the warning and it’s a long lap penalty. Transgress on the last lap and you get a 3 second penalty. Andy
     
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  14. What Andy said.
     
  15. Think it’s pretty much same in bsb now too
     
  16. I wonder how much of this is just to rattle Toprak so he’s more aggressive and may crash more
     
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  17. Thats a valid point Brad. But I suspect Toprak is made of sterner stuff. His mentor is Keenan, who is frankly nuts.
     
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  18. Does anyone other than me .think toprak passes are bit brutal ? Sort of stuffs it up uhm leaving no room for the other rider
     
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