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1299 Considering Change To Gp Shift

Discussion in 'Panigale' started by chrisb1299, May 23, 2022.

  1. I'm looking at rearsets for my 1299 as I find them too low especially with the race seat and am thinking about whether to make the change to GP shift or not. My riding is road and then handful of track days a year, interested to hear others experiences of making the change, what the learning period was like to break old habits, who got on with it, who didn't etc.
     
  2. I think for road it probably doesn't make all that much difference. For track then definitely much better. Takes a shot period to get used to. Took maybe half a day and then it slowly becomes habit.
     
  3. Defo recommended if you like a hoon. I caught my boot under the shifter a few times exiting corners before I switched.

    Unfortunately I now have a bike with normal and a bike with GP...I use the chant "Put the Hammer Down!" to know which one is GP shift in the heat of the moment!
     
  4. @bettes ?
     
  5. Definitely will help you on track, slip up/in - bang down/out of corners was my little mantra until panic situations where you revert to .... sometimes gravel or lost drive out etc, but the more times you switch or ride/road or ride/race shift the better it gets, a bit like driving left or right after a while both are good, until it goes wrong and the back part of your brain wins, the real test is in a panic situation - I always found the sharper moments ie hard braking into corner or worse..... were the times when you knew you had it sussed or not - good luck :)
     
  6. IME, choose one or the other and stick with that choice. In moments of stress on the track, I found myself going into road shift mode. Andy
     
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  7. Head down, foot down! Head up,foot up! When I changed many years ago I put a sticker on the dash to remind me for a few days! Doesn’t take long and much better, first thing I do with my road bikes is change to race ! Only bike I ride in std shift is the crosser!
     
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  8. I used to ride my firblade road/track bike in race shift and it does help on track but also have other bikes in road shift , I decided to put all my bikes in road shift now because it did get bit confusing especially when the red mist comes down, there all the same now.

    Occasionally on track I revert to race shift from where I'd had for so long and have to have a word with myself.
     
  9. My bikes are all race/reverse shift and have been for years. So much easier to click through gears accelerating than having to hook your foot under the peg I'd never go back. I did have spell where one or two were road, others race, you get used to it either way.

    At first if you are thinking about it you will always go the correct way through the box, it's those panic moments when someone pulls out that'll catch you out, but all you'll end up doing is selecting a higher gear and chugging out of a junction.

    It'll probably take a few hours/few rides to adjust then you'll wonder why you didn't do it years ago.
     
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  10. Everything happens so much quicker on track, especially down changes where you might need to go from sixth to second in three or four seconds as you brake. On left turns your toe needs to get those changes done fast then get the ball of your foot onto the tip of the peg and heel positioned above the peg with knee pointing out as you tip into the turn.
    It's just so much easier to make those "down-shifts" by hooking your toe under the lever, then, when you get behind the screen out of the corner and fold your leg in, dabbing downwards for "up-shifts" is a very small movement that doesn't mess with your balance.
     
  11. Race shift makes a lot more sense on track.

    on road.. not really, that’s down to preference.

    Everyone’s different regarding the adjustment period, I was always good at going between the two but I haven’t ridden a bike in road shift for probably 5 years or more. Would probs be a bit interesting jumping on one now :thinkingface:

    you’ll probably find that you’ll need to experiment with the position of the gear lever. What often looks right doesn’t feel right so you’ve sort of got to try and adjust from there really. It’s especially noticeable for me on down shifts and even more so with a blipper.
     
  12. I mix and match (not out of choice) but i much prefer to have everything race shift. For me race shift makes more sense than road shift.
     
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  13. Seems like a fairly consistent yes then for making the change. I only have the one bike which simplifies that element of it in terms of switching, but can completely hear the points about those lively situations and habit taking over. I've got the translogic QS so can easily change that between the two shift patterns, seems like I need to bite the bullet, buy some rear sets and go break the habit
     
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  14. Unless they have changed, you may need to get a different translogic thingy.

    there’s usually push and pull types
     
  15. many do push and pull now, just need to configure. Depends on the model though.
     
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  16. Figured there would be a newer version to what I had
     
  17. Yeah there’s a little resistor or something you plug in when using race shift so it must swap round the signal, I’ll double check though
     
  18. Might depend on the rearsets you get… if they can be adjusted to go between race and road shift, you wouldn’t need to touch the blipper.
     
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  19. With the CNC I just put on my V2, no need to do anything with the blipper. Works great, but I missed and went to 1st instead of 3rd two times on first trackday, interesting experience, and good to have slipper clutch...
     
  20. After using race shift, going back to road shift feels illogical. Once you’ve changed you’ll wonder why bikes aren’t setup as race shift as standard!
     
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