Any Mathematicians On Here?

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by chrisw, Apr 2, 2023.

  1. I am currently trying to work out how some hexadecimal code is realigned to make it compatible for key cloning.

    I have a transponder code from a KMRW key programmer that is
    C0284AB4BE2F0000

    I can use a tool in Advanced Scooter Workshop to realign the data bits to give a transponder code compatible with T5 transponders. The result is
    7D5F000080519468

    So C0284AB4BE2F0000 = 7D5F000080519468

    The code is taken from the ASW manual so I am not breaching anyone's security

    For the life of me I cannot work out what they have done. The only bytes that tie up using conversion methods I am aware of are BE = 7D and the 0000
    It looks like the code has been shifted to BE2F0000C0284AB4 but some conversion has taken place as well.

    Any help would be appreciated
     
  2. Any chance it's just been XOR'd with another code, in this case BD77 4AB4 3E7E 9468 ?
     
  3. I have some software called Zed-QX.
    If I input
    C0 28 4A B4 BE 2F 00 00
    and use a tool to take this data back 1 bit, I get
    80 51 94 68 7D 5F 00 00
    there is another tool to take the data back 8 bits
    Pressing this 4 times gives
    7D 5F 00 00 80 51 94 68

    I am still non the wiser as to what is going on. Last time I did any advanced level mathematics was back in 1980.
     
  4. Those numbers don't make much sense. If you shift a multiple of 4 then you'll see the same hex values, just shifted, and you'll see 0's appear at one end, unless it's rotating.
     
  5. Are you able to try another code? I don't think it's a simple bit shift. My money is on bitwise-XOR with BD77 4AB4 3E7E 9468. It's the simplest form of encryption/decryption. A simple bit shift doesn't offer you anything, espcecially if it's clocking in 0's at one end. That will dilute the code.
     
  6. I am at a loss as to what is happening. I am OK with converting Hex to Tiris but do not know what is happening here. I have converted a genuine transponder code from a RW4 key programmer that outputs a completely different format of bytes. Both pieces of software convert it correctly. The Advanced Scooter Workshop is able to do it in 1 button click.
     
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  7. Ahem, crack on lads. Good luck. Alan Turing I ain’t…. :blush:
     
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  8. Imagine our surprise :rolleyes:
     
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