Hi, Picked up my1199 ABS on Monday, I'm well happy! I was very nervous as I hadn't been riding for 4 or 5 years, but I have to say, what an easy bike to ride and within a few miles I was back to my old self! I thought it was comfortable, the dash is great and the quick shifter is the nuts. I had to check my arse wasn't on fire as the heat coming out the back end is incredible! A few questions, re the running in. The dealer told me about the running period of 620miles and not to go over 6k revs, fair enough. I may have accidentally slipped over by a few revs once or twice and I understand that this may be picked up at the first service? oops! I read the hand book the other night and its says that after the 1st service you are allowed to rev to 7k for the next 2500km, is that for real or what? Has any one else had experience form dealers of this extended period? Thanks
I would take be 6000rpm with a pinch of salt Rev through it to 7-8k rpm when accelerating. Don't cruise much above 6000rpm, in fact don't stay at any engine speed for long. After 620 miles, I would just build it up progressively. Every hundred miles add anther 1000rpm. I wouldnt let it sit and idle to warm up either. Other folks will have different ideas. I wouldn't go Banzai though. Who knows what the ecu stores?
I've seen demo 1199s still burning oil after 900+ miles. Thrashed since new, they just aren't bedding in the seals. The running in cycle of these is a serious detraction... I am sure many Ducatis do not even see the number of running in miles during a whole year.
John Bridge ran his in on a track day at Oulton Park. First time he'd ridden it, trailered it there and rode it hard all day. I've been told be a very experienced Ducati engine builder that these engines will be better performers if ridden hard to bed them in. Not sure I'd do that to a brand new 1198 though! I ran my 1098 in until the 600 mile service then rode it how I wanted and it's been great ever since.
A few extra revs wont make the engine blow up... best advice I ever heard was treat the engine as cold for the entire running in period - no big handfuls or redlining.
dyno............1. warm up then heat sink for 30 mins 2. 30 mins at half revs max. run through the box accelerating and decelerating up and down the gears. 3. stop and heat sink for 30 mins. 4 repeat step 2. 5 its done.............. 6. power runs...........and remap......................
Thanks for the tips guys, if it helps, I'll let you know what the dealer says when I service it as well
I'm sure we've had these conversations before on the old site. I was always told to run my new Ducatis in very thoroughly, so I always have. Maybe it was unnecessary, maybe not, but they've never given me any engine problems for the last 25 years. I can imagine that there is still quite a lot of amusement on an 1199 at 6'000 rpm.
Running in the MTS was a joy - 6k put you into 3 figures quite easily. Before that it was a 1050 Speed Triple, where it took nearly 300 miles before you got to a reasonable motorway speed. First 100 miles were at no more than 55mph. As you can imagine, that got totally ignored.
The dash updates the redline as the mileage increases, so it lets you know how long you need to run it in for. Very clever!
QUOTE-dyno............1. warm up then heat sink for 30 mins 2. 30 mins at half revs max. run through the box accelerating and decelerating up and down the gears. 3. stop and heat sink for 30 mins. 4 repeat step 2. 5 its done.............. 6. power runs...........and remap...................... Agreed
hmm , ive always switched my bike engine on then got my gear on etc , then went out on the bike , ive always warmed my bike up idiling stationary , i heard somethin interesting tho , i heard at idle there is no oil pressure , so it can infact be burning oil while idle , hence why there can be bellows of smoke when reved , just what ive heard anyway , but anyhow even if this is true and there is no oil pressure , then atleast the engine oil will be nice and hot and lubracative ( i think i made up a new word there , but you know what i mean ) , and ive always done this , and ive done 13500 miles on my gixxer and the engines as sweet as a god dam nut !!
At the end of a tour of the Ducati factory our party stood and watched bikes rolling off the end of the production line and being started and run on a rolling road for the very first time. I watched in horror as within less than a minute from being stated they were being thrashed to within an inch of their lives. After 10 mins of going through the whole rev range the engines were litterally screaming and almost glowing red hot which pretty much makes a mockery of how we are told to look after our new bikes in the running in period as if they're made from the finest bone china! It was a bit of an eye opener.
Yep. ANY new car or bike gets the same abuse from new, simply to see if it will rev that far, to show up any existing flaws/fueling errors etc? IMHO it doesn't:smile: hurt them for the 5/10 minutes this happens? If that would put any discernible wear on the pistons/bores etc then the thing would be knackered after a year?
+1 having just done the factory tour a couple of weeks ago, the guy in the dyno just caned it....which is why I have just bought one after hearing the noise outside the sound proof dyno
Eeeh when I were a lad I used to follow the running in instructions to the word. I did that on a zxr400 nearly 20 years ago and it took me f@@@@g months to run the thing in as 4000 rpm = 40 mph. Since then i just ride them normally, use the revs and don't do a track day until it has 600 miles on the clock. Never had any problems and none of my bikes used oil, apart from the Desmosedici, but thats normal.
It's not the revs that have to be watched when running in, it's the loading of the components by labouring the thing ......... hard rev/engine braking run-ins produce a much better bore seal. Pootling around for 100's of miles at low revs just polishes the bores giving a poor seal and makes the engine 'soft'. Why do you think they do the power run/throttle off procedures in the factory before they let you near it? The instructions to 'take it easy for 500 miles' or (more importantly) until the 'first dealer service' are more to do with not wanting you to ride it at high speed just in case some moron at the factory (or dealer!) hasn't done the 'pre delivery' checks on the chassis/bodywork bolts properly .......
