Cant beat a bit of shakespear! Question is brand new Termi slip ons or 2nd hand full Akro system? Rhetorical as i cant afford either for my new(to me) 899 yet...........
Fair enough any ideas how much someone would charge to fit a full system? Bit more involved than i would be confident with. Assuming a main dealer would be needed for a remap?
You need a tuning specialist. A main dealer would fit a map it would probably be generic. It took me 5 hours of fannying around and 1.5 tanks of fuel to do my 1199.
Firstly I’m glad this isn’t one of those “Termi or standard exhaust” threads. Secondly I’m sorry to say this is correct although I’ve only had akras on a 959. They’re so much better made. And lastly I think you’ll do well to find either slip ons or a full system akras for an 899. I may be wrong, I dont have the money to look sadly.
If it were me I'd get tim at moto vation to fit the exhaust system then wiz it down to cjs in Bristol to map it.
a set of termis is £1300 something, plus fitting and the map, there are some fucked out bits of junk on eBay, but probably need refurbing but rubbish and silly money i have termis but a pal of mine had the factory ones and to be honest there wasn't a lot of difference in the sound. with the price of 899s at the moment it will add very little in value
@southlondonCBR true, but you do save a healthy chunk of weight. Plus with a free flowing air filter & Upmap etc the bike runs better.
https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/899-1199-panigale-termignoni-end-cans.104268/ @BIG M has these for sale on here
But have you ever claimed with undeclared modifications ??? Getting insurance is easy, getting them to pay out is a different challenge .....
True, but personally the only insurance claims I’ve ever had with bikes is total loss (nicked, never to be seen again). So theoretically I could have had undeclared triple turbo’s bolted on them with no impact on my claim. Many moons ago I had a newish 999S nicked. And I was worried it may be found during the claim process. It was about as standard as a blacked out, straight piped Nissan GTR.
In the event of a claim, can't undeclared modifications reduce the cover to third party only. And theoretically can't the insurer also recover their third party costs, from their incorrectly insured?
......and there goes the thread; disappearing into the insurance/full system rabbit hole.............
ANY change from “standard”, i.e as it left the factory, should be declared. If not it’s grounds for the policy to be voided by the insurer. Irrespective whether it was material to a claim or not. A sticker, not declared, has voided a claim. As has non o/e fork oil in a bike involved in a claim. No idea how they got to that one but they did.
On the exhaust I would always go full if you can. Pretty straight forward to fit yourself over winter too! On insurance, they will find anything to get out of paying. I hear a lot of people saying the bike is either gone or they will swap bits if they need to make a claim.... however, when I was knocked off by someone doing a surprise illegal u-turn, my bike was off to a police yard whilst I was taken to hospital and the insurer took it straight from there. Fortunately I had all £10k of mods declared and everything was replaced otherwise I know I would have been in trouble after speaking to the assessor. I know of someone who had their (non-fault) car claim refused, insurance voided, and them being added to the naughty list because they failed to declare a little plastic splitter to the bottom of their front bumper (and it was one available from the manufacturer as an option on other versions of the model). At the end of the day insurers are there to make money, not to give it to us.
