In preparation for the spring I'd like to add some spotlights to my 2019 1260 Multistrada Enduro. It would be really good to use the built in button on the handlebars and tap into the original loom as prepared from the factory. I understand they'll need activating, but I have an OBD Star to do that. I'm not keen on the look of the original Ducati spotlights, and am convinced there are better, more technically advanced, and probably far cheaper alternatives out there. I'm happy to fabricate any brackets in Stainless, or design and 3D print them in ABS. Can anyone shed any light on the location of the connector the Ducati accessory loom plugs into? I believe it's under the tank but that's not a 5 min job to investigate. Does it simply provide a switched 12V supply once activated, or is it more sophisticated than that? I'm not sure what else it could do, but you never know these days. Perhaps I'd have to replicate the resistance of the Ducati system. I'm assuming that if I can get hold of an original loom, or the details to build one in terms of connectors etc I'd be able to use spotlights of my choice.
Im fairly sure the feed for the lights is behind the panels on the LHS. I seem to recall seeing it there when dismantling an enduro for servicing. Remove the aluminium panel and you may be able to see it behind the black under panel or may have to remove the black panel too to get at it. I can’t recall how many wires are in the loom connector but I’ll dig out a wiring diagram in the morning and check it out. As you say, you’ll need to enable the switch on the bars via OBDStar so it can operate the lights.
Fortunately the wiring diagram is in the owners manual - unusual these days. Anyway, the fog lights are a simple 2 cable affair, a black (gnd) and yellow/black which brings power from the dash. The Ducati fog lights, according to the OM, are Altilon LAFL C4S 850 which are 4 chip LEDs, the data sheet for which can be found here http://www.datasheet.hk/download.ph...E57AFA840&file=0556\lacl-c2s-0425_8519559.pdf So if you’re not using the Ducati ones you need something identical electrically.
Interesting... had always thought that the Ducati lights had something more sophisticated going on with coding the lights so only theirs would work. The connection to the loom on the 1260 MTS, if I recall, is a three pin affair.
Thanks all, that's good info. I need to confirm the part numbers and get hold of the installation instructions. The link isn't working for me but I should be able to find it. I'm assuming these are the correct ones: https://ducatistore.co.uk/shop/ducati-additional-led-lights-96680431b.html
Well that's interesting. The images I've found on line of the harness that goes with the official kit 96680431B definitely shows 3 wires going to each spotlight, not a simple +ve and -ve 12V: So this is going to take a little more investigating. I'm assuming the spots are not multi stage with high/low power/beam.
Well, that’s strange, but I guess not unusual. I have a copy of an owners manual from a 2019 1260S (admittedly not the enduro but the looms will be the same), and that shows the fog lights as having 2 cables. 82 is the optional fog lights
And looking a little deeper at the wiring diagram in the handbook, thanks @West Cork Paul the three wires are marked up as: 82 is the connector you plug the accessory harness in to. GND is simple by the looks of it, -12V SIGN 0.5 goes direct from that connector to the Instrument panel. KEY_OPT 0.5 appears to be a common ignition on constant +12V feed to a lot of different sensors etc. So the power appears to be supplied to the spotlights constantly, but the lights are switched on and off using a signal from the instrument panel. So there must be some additional circuitry in the lights which pretty much prevents you using the built in switch and dashboard indicator to power up a generic pair of lights.
Sorry @West Cork Paul I was typing whilst you posted. My wiring diagram definitely shows 3 wires as my post above.
The entire manual is 7MB I don’t believe it will upload here and the screen shot of the wiring diagram is very low res and pixelated. Sorry.
I suppose it's possible the signal from the instrument panel simply switches on a simple solid state relay in the spots, in which case I could replicate that quite easily.
In which case there’s a switching element within the OEM lights that responds, like a relay, to the signal from the dash, which is triggered when the RHS gear button is pressed and held for the requisite time.
The pdf I have of the owners manual is @8mb, and as you can see from my post I can blow the wiring diagram up really large with no loss of clarity. It's just a shame it's not in colour. I could email it to you, but I think I found it following a link posted on here some where.
I have one I can blow up, thanks, it’s just the screen shot I took to post didn’t work out. The manual I have is for a 1260S but I really didn’t think the looms would be different between the enduro and non-enduro. But, it won’t be the first time there’s an error in an owners manual (or a workshop manual)
So, a quick check on the Ducati website and there’s no owners manual available for a 2019 1260 Enduro but there is for a 2020MY 1260 Enduro and sure enough the optional fog light connector, no.82, has 3 wires.
In that case I need to investigate a little deeper just in case Ducati changed the loom and spotlights between the MY19 and MY20. My Enduro is a MY19, registered in July 19. Although as you know, getting to that connector under the tank to see if it's 2 or 3 wire is a lot of work. I wonder if I can get my Endoscope in there. That will keep me entertained for a couple of hours over xmas.
The spots you linked to are listed as fitting the MY19 1200 Enduro, not the 1260... This might well just be that the listing hasn't been updated. I thought that the silver spots had been discontinued and replaced by the black bodied versions. Maybe the ducatistore.co.uk page isn't current (it seems to indicate availability). Here listed as being compatible to the MY19-21 1260 Enduro https://www.seastarsuperbikes.co.uk/store/product/ducati-additional-led-lights-du96680832a/ I've heard that these are not quite as effective, in terms of light output, as the earlier versions. Here, a superseded version, shown fitted to an Enduro, with schematic of lights, bracket and loom. Oddly doesn't list the Enduro as compatible... Here a video on fitting.
The Ducati web site link with part numbers and model applicability, https://www.ducati.com/gb/en/accessories/search?family=MT. Andy
Thanks all I've not watched the video yet, but will very soon. I had a quick investigation today. The bike definitely has a 3 pin connector, you can see it simply by looking down from the top behind the top yoke. I took the cover off the 'recovery button' plus the long piece of trim with DUCATI on it to see how good the access is from the top: Unfortunately I don't think there is any way I'd be able to get my hand in and remove the blanking cap without removing the tank, which is a pain as it's such a big job on these. It would also be nice to get a meter on the pins and see what's going on with the SIGN 0.5 signal once I've initiated spotlights with the OBD Star. I'm assuming it will stay +12V when then spotlight button is pressed once, then go back to 0V when the button is pressed again. But that might be too easy, it could of course connect to ground instead, or even if the electronics in the lamps is sophisticated enough just supply a momentary +12V or Gnd. Does anyone know what that 3 pin connector is? I can probably source the mating half through work.
