I've just bought a V4 Pikes Peak which has fresh Metzeler Sportec M9 RR tyres already fitted. I'm used to Michelin Road 6 and Pirelli Angels, on a non-Ducati with the same power and weight as a PP. Does anyone have real-world experience of the M9 RRs (and hopefully Road 6/Angels too to compare with)? What can I expect in terms of: - wet grip - tyre life (think Alps roundtrip, so less than 2.5-3k is pointless) Thanks.
I wasn’t impressed by the M9RR in comparison to the tyre it superseded, the M7RR, which was my all time favourite sports tyre. I hated the OE Pirelli Rosso 4, no feel, absolute no confidence to push the front. I was disappointed in the Metzeler Roadtec 02 in comparison to the Roadtec 01SE, which was my all time favourite touring tyre. Last year I tried the Dunlop Roadsmart 4 for a tour of the Pyrenees after being blown away by the tyre fitted to a Scrambler Icon. It works really well for me, quick to warm up, great feedback and excellent grip wet and dry. I have no experience of the Michelin but it certainly is a favourite, just not for me. Andy
Neevesy talking about the M9RR and says he got goo mileage - 3-4K on the rear with two up. I've got the M9RR as well and works well for me. Although can't comment on durability as still done less than 2k on them. Jump to 32m.00s for discussion on M9RR (link with timestamp didn't work)
Yes, you need to say that the reference to the M9RR is only about 3 seconds of a 48 minute video that is him responding to a wide variety of questions he’s been asked by joe public. If I ever suffer from insomnia, I’ll remember to watch this video again. Andy
This is with respect to a 1299, so a lighter bike but I will say this: I too really liked the M7RR. The first set of M9RRs that I tried were horrible (Metzler has just released it). Other sets since then (on a Tuono) have been solid. Good in the cold or wet, pretty hard wearing (not to Pilot Road 6 levels though). I’d take the Metzlers over Pirelli Diabolo Rossos or Rosso Corsas any day.
Good link, thanks. 3-4k miles isn't enough unfortunately - I'll be at least halfway through them by the time I go to the Alps. And poor value when you can typically get 6-7k out of a Michelin Road 6 (on 175BHP bike, admittedly not being hooned everywhere) and they still grip really well.
I don't think the M9 RR tyres are really in the same market as the Road 6 from Michelin. The Metzeler M9 are a sports tyre and the Michelin Road 6 as a sports touring tyre capable of higher mileages. I put M9 on the Ducati Monster 821, replacing the OE Pirellis, which was a like for like swap really. Also the Monster 821 is not a particularly heavy upright kind of bike, so the M9 suited it very well just like the Pirellis that came with it new. Another set on the Suzuki GSX-S1000. They replaced a shocking set of OE Dunlops that came on the bike. The difference was immediately noticeable. But again the GSX-S was a relatively light weight super naked ( rather than heavy upright adventure bike) so the Metzeler M9 suited it very well. I did not really do much motorway mileage on either the Ducati or the Suzi so never explored the longevity of the Meteler M9. I doubt that they are in the same league as the top scoring Michelin Road 6 for mileage.
Agreed. As Michael Neeves suggests, if you're not going on track, sports touring tyres are perfectly capable even for hard use (which they'll barely get off me ).
Never tried the Road 6 as did use a set of the road 5 , they did not last at all . 1500 miles max , that was on my 1250 gs . Good grip but to wet focused for hard riding on grippy roads , got 2500 out of the M9rr similar situation .
My 6-7k was on also on BMW - but a K1300S. One pair of Road 5s and three pairs of Road 6s, and it was quite consistent. It may be down to riding style.
With the weight of the PP, I think I'd be mode tempted to go for the Road 6 GT's over the normal Road 6's.
I had the same thought about the Dunlop Roadsmart 4 GT version and ended up having to run lower pressures because the carcass is much stiffer. When the time comes, I'll buy the Roadsmart 4 again (it works well for me) but the standard version. Andy