This is a question that I was going to embellish with nonsense from my Tornton trip. The hotel (doss house) was a haven for van drivers, but I will just ask the question: Now just a question for van lovers. Is the Hierarchy as I thought? 1. Diesel 2. Petrol 3. Electric And only diesel van drivers are allowed at the top table in a motorway services?
A decade ago the Tory government announced zero road tax for some and £25 road tax for a great many diesel cars. How times change!
I believe that not many years back diesel was considered to be cleaner than petrol, as it emitted less hydrocarbons. Then they discovered particulates. They also did away with lead in petrol as it was unhealthy, but replaced it with a known carcinogen.
I'm a diesel fan . 700 miles tank range in my work van . Our little diesel nissan note car does 70mpg on a run and cost £25 to tax . Its 12 years old now, I've had it for 5 years and intend to keep it at least another 5 . Great green motoring
And it's a fuck you to everyone who has to breathe in the filth it bilges out. Hopefully soon be banned.
Flatty eh? Invariably wrong. About everything. Don’t worry, he’s blocked me. Along with all the other wrong thinkers
I've got a proper diesel van. Egr packed up so that had to go, pdf eliminated as well - you have to remove the two together or you get pdf followed by turbo problems. Now it smells like a Scammell truck and returns better mpg. Of course, the Gubmint could tax both my van and 4x4 me off the road I suppose. But if they do I won't be able to earn a living as there's no way a lectrick battery van would be either affordable or practical. Then I'll be conbtributing no tax revenue at all and the gubmint will be paying me. Their choice. I'd have a battery van and 4x4 if they worked, the power packs were fully recyclable, they were affordable, built in the UK and lasted 300,000 miles. Unless and until that is the case I'll stick with hydrocarbons. Either that or I'll retire and pick up my government pay cheque at the post office every Wednesday. Edit: if I was buying a car I would buy petrol. I'd run hydrogen too when it becomes available and pratical, if it ever does. Chineezy toy battery car, no thanks.
The "green" thing is interesting. I use taxis a lot and they are all diesel. 200,000 miles is about the average mileage before they get shot of the car - some do many miles more. And modern stuff complies with all the emissions zones and so they can go anywhere. One could argue that a modern diesel is the greenest option - especially when the emissions caused by manufacture will be off the scale and diesels last longer.
In the "green" scheme of things, any idea how not using/ replacing a diesel thats already been manufactured and the recycling of same, compare with the electrickery van of today? Surely if more filth is created by building a new replacement van & recycling the old one than is made by using an Euro4/5 diesel it makes sense to continue? And this may be especially true of diesels that do not rack up many miles per year? I'm not looking for an argument, I'm genuinely interested in what you -and others- think. Perhaps (its happened before!) I'm missing some salient point.
London taxis are odd. They have to be electric and they have a small petrol engine because a battery charge would not keep them going all day. Many are shared coz they cost big money, and are used 24 hours a day with no time for sitting around charging - about £75k for a London cab, I think. Many run off the petrol engine for long parts of the day. Americans picked up at Heathrow will think nothing of getting a taxi to Bournemouth (its not that far on a map!) and doing it all on electric is just not practical. Nobody else seems to get the joke of massive aircraft burning kerosine and spitting out shit like there's no tomorrow, coming into to Heathrow, where they must be picked u by an electric taxi! Really GREEN man!!!!
My point exactly. Petrol doesn't poison the atmosphere anywhere near as much as diesel. Any regular biker knows this.
People miss the point entirely. I'm not talking about green or global warming, I'm talking about poisoning the air we breathe. As I said above, any regular biker knows what it's like getting stuck behind an old diesel. You can't breathe. It's mental they're still allowed. I have no issue with petrol.
I’ve got a petrol hybrid van, very happy with it. Never plug it in to charge it but through its own regenerative charging it manages roughly a third of its journeys on pure electric and it pulls away from the lights like a scalded cat (in comparison to the base diesel model)
