There is an update and it appears that there were three riders travelling one way and three the other way. What the car was doing isn't specified. I don't ride at weekends unless I am going to work a race meeting or an airshow and vey rarely in a group but that might be cos I am billy no mates
Condolences to all involved whatever the circumstances, nobody deserved to die. I only occasionally ride in a group now and usually near the front. We use a drop off at junctions so everybody gets there then its split up and make your own way back. One guy who was as much use as tits on a fish on the twisty bits used to think it was fun to go blatting past at 140 on the straight bits then pull in front of you and just back off the gas without brakes. This sort of twat causes accidents. After telling him that if he did it to me again I'd chin him at the next stop he desisted and didn't show up again. Just don't put up with idiots, tell them. OGR
Another shocker. Don't think its the same. Police checks allegedly blocked the road up and been referred to complaints authority BBC News - Family's tribute to Melanie Lakin who died in A458 crash and an update Penyffordd motorbike crash: New details emerge following horror motorcycle smash that left two dead and five injured - Wales Online
Penyffordd motorbike crash: Tributes paid to Liverpool FC fan Stephen Hill and Nigel Davies amid calls for improved road signs - Wales Online Both now named altho no more insight into what happened
Well I have been following this story with a bit more interest than most on here as me and my mates always end up coming back from our Welsh jaunts on this very road so I know it well, I'd say I'm on it twice a month. I have biker mates in work who I don't ride out with but they All use the same routes I do as they are some of the best biking roads in the UK and close by us wirral/Liverpool. I wasn't alone in thinking at first this was power rangers/group of lads racing, I even heard the phrase TT madness!! We where all wrong though, this was an accident that would have been difficult almost impossible to avoid for the most experienced rider. The accident happened under a tree canopy on a bend, from left and right the road is straight and the corner from both directions is good for 60 mph, either the 1st bike overcooked it and was on the wrong side of the road or the car was, either way they collided but this was in the canopy and no Way to see from either approaching direction what lay ahead, All the other bikers just pilled into a mess they had no idea was even there. I don't know how to post pics but if you Google Capricorn animal rescue A5104 and look at the Google maps it will give you a better idea of the layout. Feel so sorry for those guys certainly not a situation I would like to find myself in. Condolences go to all involved R.I.P stephen and Nigel, in the wrong place at the wrong time :-(
Whilst I am sensitive to the fact a couple of guys died here it does sound like they didn't have a view of the road ahead and were therefore travelling too fast for the conditions.
Check out the google location. Looks like a tunnel. Being aboe to stop if someone pulls out is one thing. Having bits of metal and bodies flying towards you or all over the place is another
I hate the way the press etc seem to take great joy in pushing motorcyclists in the naughty corner (just the way it seems sometimes), however the Wales crash is truly a horror story, I see one of the riders was a highly experienced HGV instructor, not the kind of person you would associate with any kind of crazy riding, I doubt very much any of them were doing silly speeds etc and as Bradders says so many things can go wrong to cause such a crash, surly the whole definition of an accident is that what can not be for seen, it's always the little things that afterwards you look back and think, ah, that's what happened, for me it's always been some silly circumstance that you'd be hard pushed to replicate even if you put time into it. Talking of tunnels I came through the tunnel by Loomies last year at national speed limit, RIGHT on the exit of the tunnel a few had pulled over with a small van and a tiny trailer, another car was parked with them on the blind exit, ended up locking the rear wheel at 45 degrees to try and stop, was unable to and had to release the brakes take to the double while lines and go into the oncoming traffic while one was opening the drivers door, it was that or lay it down, pure luck and quick thinking got me through the gap, all because some happy blackberry pickers had chosen a poor place to park! Anyway I said it before and I say it again, very sad and RIP to those who died and gutted for those who are left behind and have to make a life without their loved ones.
Generally accidents occur when people fail to see what is there to be seen. Very few are random events that occur with such speed that it is impossible to react and avoid in the time available, but who knows this may have been one of those occasions.
